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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: March 30 2012 at 08:33 | |||
There's a stock image of me floating around the Googlesphere, once when I made a really goofy face for the camera. If you Google "rat face" you'll see it. Kinda nice to be a "celebrity" like that, but I always hoped it would be for other reasons. edit: I just looked for it and it seems to be gone now. I think I had it removed and I forgot. Whew. Edited by HolyMoly - March 30 2012 at 08:36 |
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dennismoore
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: April 19 2011 Location: America Status: Offline Points: 877 |
Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:12 | |||
WTF???
You know you can't do that! Tell us about this great picture, then tell us we can't see it.
Please do post that wonderful picture here...
Its the right thing to do!
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:18 | |||
Wrong. It is the Wrong thing to do. |
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dennismoore
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: April 19 2011 Location: America Status: Offline Points: 877 |
Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:24 | |||
Ok, I didn't want to do this but you have given me no choice. From your prior post I did google "rat face" and I found
some truly disturbing images... If you don't wanna post the real photo I can supply another and attribute it to you.
Your choice, of course.
Hmm, I do believe this is the first time I have ever tried to blackmail anybody, it feels kinda cool!
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:26 | |||
Did I say "rat face"? So sorry, I meant "George Clooney", that was a typo. Edited by HolyMoly - March 30 2012 at 09:26 |
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My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
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dennismoore
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Posted: March 30 2012 at 09:31 | |||
Ok, I will pretend to believe that. People mistake "rat face" for George Clooney all the time....
Very nice recovery, by the way. Well played.
Edited by dennismoore - March 30 2012 at 09:32 |
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dennismoore
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Posted: May 08 2012 at 20:23 | |||
Update:
Just returned from diner after voting in my state's primary(I live in a Red State). I only went to vote for one reason, to vote no on a proposed constitutional amendment to define marriage as man & woman. This will open the door to all kinds of discrimination against people and permit companies to deny benefits in the future. It also broadcasts to the USA that we are a bunch of bigoted zealots here and International or other US Companies need not relocate here as we are an intolerant and self-righteous, judgmental group. Ignorance at its worst as this proposal hurts ALL the people in this state by the message of exclusion that it sends. My wife, a recent US Citizen registered at the voting site so she could vote no as well. Although most Americans don't vote in the primaries we thought it was important, so we went and voted. No doubt the measures supporters wanted it this May ballot for the low turnout. So that is 2 votes no on this dreadful & misguided proposal. Bad news is that the proposal is winning now, 57% to 43%. Looks like it will pass for sure. We have a long way to go as humans I say, a long way still. Just my $.02 |
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Neue regel
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 27 2006 Location: uk Status: Offline Points: 152 |
Posted: May 09 2012 at 20:14 | |||
What about Queen (their prog-pomp 70's era)?
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ole-the-first
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
Posted: May 09 2012 at 20:20 | |||
^Queen have never been 'gay', they had completely different stylistics. Even when Mercury was bi, it didn't inflected his music or music of Queen.
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colorofmoney91
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 16 2008 Location: Biosphere Status: Offline Points: 22774 |
Posted: May 09 2012 at 20:58 | |||
No, but he was a gay vocalist in a (somewhat) progressive rock band with his own unique style which is still very relevant today. The band as a whole doesn't necessarily need to be "gay".
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felipeterry
Forum Newbie Joined: August 02 2011 Location: Brasil Status: Offline Points: 26 |
Posted: May 10 2012 at 22:21 | |||
James LaBrie is gay, Steven Wilson too. So there you are, gay bands. =P
Kidding, only LaBrie is gay.
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RoyFairbank
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
Posted: May 10 2012 at 22:44 | |||
I don't care about gay people in bands. I'd like to think the people I'm listening to are straight though, because I can relate with that better. Its a pragmatic matter. I also consider it pragmatic when I say I don't think a guy can become a girl, its silly and rather harmful, borderline selfish and superficial. I don't think it has anything to do with being gay. Its a weird cultural fad, like being goth. I can't take any one who claims to have bridged the genders seriously. That they demand extra respect is not fair, I give them basic respect, no more than anyone else. Someone like Boy George I just can't get on with. He can't be in my music library, though there is a decent song he wrote for the Beach Boys, which is in my library. I don't know, I'm just being honest. I don't hate anyone, I just don't think they need to be propped or celebrated. As for ordinary gay people, they're cool in my book, in as much as they don't do provocative in your face things to upset straight people on purpose.
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32524 |
Posted: May 10 2012 at 22:52 | |||
Ah, so you live in NC as well? I think your indignation is a tad misplaced, and your use of the term "ignorance" is rather ironic. The problem is not (in this context) being against gay marriage. Lots of people are. Fine. The problem here (in this context) is this: Most people who voted had no idea what the amendment was all about. Gay marriage is already not recognized or legal in NC. How many people who voted either way actually read and understood the full proposal? Did you? In my opinion, the proposal was poorly worded, and frankly, a lot of folks just go by the media's interpretation of something. If anything, it shows that NC's population is easy manipulated and that they don't know how to look up anything for themselves. I work with teachers who have expressed falsehoods about this very amendment, and I think, "No wonder out students can't think for themselves." I am, in case you don't know, personally against homosexuality, but I would never vote for legislation making such partnerships illegal. As a Libertarian, I refuse to force my values onto anyone via the legislature. As a Christian, I'm not interested in making anyone a heterosexual anyway: Jesus didn't say, "Go therefore into all nations and make gay people straight," after all... Edited by Epignosis - May 10 2012 at 22:53 |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 05:08 | |||
I'm not sure what your point is there Rob, if the ammendment is poorly worded and contains "broad and untested language" (wiki) then I don't see how anyone can be faulted for not understanding it or for being manipulated by the media. Any law that is not explicit will be open to implicit interpretation. If the media reporting of the comments by those supporting and opposing the ammendment are indicative of general opinion (and there is no reason to assume otherwise as neither side have trotted out opinions that haven't been used before regardless of the wording of the ammendment) then people have voted according to their prior assumptions and beliefs, not to any poor understanding or errorneous interpretaion.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 09:27 | |||
IN the 80s it was obvious who was gay namely Boy George and Marilyn.... awful...
also Elton John and Freddie Mercury These days you need to be a mind reader - and who cares anyway? Its music for the masses... and Queen are awesome. |
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14122 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 09:30 | |||
In general I don't care about the sexual identity of the artists I listen to, but I have a curiosity about Kevin Ayers as I remember his video of "Caribbean Moon" that was very gay.
It's not to know if Ayers is gay, it's to understand better the meaning of that video ( a parody, a provocation or just a gay video ?) Does anybody know? |
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Dean
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Posted: May 11 2012 at 09:56 | |||
^ I said right at the very beginning of this thread that people should refrain from speculation and "outing" artists who haven't made any public announcement to their sexual orientation.
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14122 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 10:06 | |||
Don't take me wrong. My question is about the video that was in any case really funny. I don't care of anything else. Behind every art there's a person and a mind. Knowing something about the artist helps in better interpreting the meaning of what the artist does. You can't understand Senmuth without entering his world of esoteric knowledge and ancient Egypt fascination. Back to Ayers he wanted to appear gay in that video, regardless if he's gay or not I'd like to know what's behind. It might have been just a director's choice too. I'm totally uninterested in any kind of gossip and I'm sorry to have given this impression. Here the video
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14122 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 10:15 | |||
And just because I'm on this thread, here is one of my favorite non-prog artists
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: May 11 2012 at 10:23 | |||
That video clip is detestable no matter what your sexual preference......
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