LGBT in Progressive Rock

Deathrabbit wrote: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=85546 :P

Deathrabbit wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: I don't understand what you are offended about.  Greg Lake IS a fatty. Bull f**king sh*t. Next thing you know, you'll be calling Rosie O'Donnell fat as well. It's on topic cuz she's teh gay.

http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html

Man Overboard wrote: http://www.derailingfordummies.com/complete.html

It's always nice to know that somewhere on the internet, there's someone to make your arguments for you, so you can post the link in trivial forum discussions that mean completely nothing, not to mention are way off topic. 

Man Overboard wrote: My point is that this topic is packed with attempts to derail the very topic itself. I'm disturbed that even the TC himself seems to think this topic is beyond repair--I could probably name more posters in this thread who legitimately care about the issue than there are out prog musicians--and it's really just a reflection of the marginalization that we face in society as a whole by the heteronormative masses. So, I really do think a different, more mature thread, with some groundrules of decency should be established in lieu of this one. Perhaps the next thread could be authored by someone with a bit more understanding and reverence of LGBT issues so it can turn into something other than a hotbed of homophobic ha-has. The topic is still an important one, and it still bears discussion. Have fun with your troll thread, I guess.

The OP here is a very dear person who cares deeply about all people in all walks of life, from what I can tell from my interactions with him. I will brook no unjust insults to his character. It's very bizarre to me that he can create a topic in support and celebration of a "marginalized" (I really hate these clinical terms, we are talking about people after all) group and get slammed because he doesn't care enough in certain people's eyes. It's extreme rehashing of the classic "If you're not for me, you're against me." Instead, it has become, "if you are not supporting me with all your heart, mind, and soul with your every drawing breath, then you are against me". It's people like you who continually set LGBT rights backward. By creating such a unilateral world, you essentially cast everyone into the role of an enemy. Honestly, if your goal is to persuade people, how on earth do you think you will achieve that end by alienating everyone who could be a potential ally. If someone was truly on the fence about LGBT rights, and they read this thread with the mindset it would be the deciding factor (which is pretty ridiculous), do you honestly think your conduct here would draw them to your side? Furthermore, you bring insult to your own marginalized group. As if, members of the LGBT community are weak as a whole and they need a golden crusader to defend them because they can't take care of themselves. You sicken me.


Edited by Deathrabbit - March 29 2012 at 17:38

Deathrabbit wrote:   ]The OP here is a very dear person who cares deeply about all people in all walks of life, from what I can tell from my interactions with him. I will brook no unjust insults to his character. It's very bizarre to me that he can create a topic in support and celebration of a "marginalized" (I really hate these clinical terms, we are talking about people after all) group and get slammed because he doesn't care enough in certain people's eyes. It's extreme rehashing of the classic "If you're not for me, you're against me." Instead, it has become, "if you are not supporting me with all your heart, mind, and soul with your every drawing breath, then you are against me". It's people like you who continually set LGBT rights backward. By creating such a unilateral world, you essentially cast everyone into the role of an enemy. Honestly, if your goal is to persuade people, how on earth do you think you will achieve that end by alienating everyone who could be a potential ally. If someone was truly on the fence about LGBT rights, and they read this thread with the mindset it would be the deciding factor (which is pretty ridiculous), do you honestly think your conduct here would draw them to your side? Furthermore, you bring insult to your own marginalized group. As if, members of the LGBT community are weak as a whole and they need a golden crusader to defend them because they can't take care of themselves. You sicken me.

Edited by Man Overboard - March 29 2012 at 17:44

^ Some people don't transition until later in life 

Jonsi recorded an album with his lover, and the link to the wiki page is somewhere in this thread.

dennismoore wrote: True story now, you really freaked out my better half when she saw your avatar photo.  I love Marillion & Transatlantic, can you share the story of that less than photogenic picture of Pete T.?

Edited by Harry Hood - March 29 2012 at 23:34

Harry Hood wrote: dennismoore wrote: True story now, you really freaked out my better half when she saw your avatar photo.  I love Marillion & Transatlantic, can you share the story of that less than photogenic picture of Pete T.? It actually came up in a google image search for "Neal Morse". I think it's just a random fan photo that he wasn't really prepared for. I usually use awkward photos as my avatar (before it was David Tennant).