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Posted: March 23 2012 at 12:24

The return of a Schumacher in a competitive car?

I do hope so.

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Posted: March 23 2012 at 15:52

^I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet, the Mercedes does look very quick over 1 lap but it's very hard on it's tyres.

Kimi's had to change his gearbox today so thats a 5 place grid penalty for him. and Kovalainan has one as well for passing two cars under before the safety car line on the restart in Melbourne.

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Posted: March 23 2012 at 22:15

That is true but we'll see. Ross Brawn said as much himself. It's their controversial DRS system that allows them quick qualifying laps. It doesn't have that advantage in the race.

But they're apparently still tweaking for qualifying and the race.

Oh and Red Bull aren't that happy this weekend.

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Posted: March 23 2012 at 22:27

Call me crazy but I like the later start. The Malyansian rain is always fun. And who doesn't love half points?!

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 03:02

Aw yeah, races so soon!
I like this, I hope (assuming the schedule does bulge to 24 sometime in the future) they keep it in clusters, so they can race every week with only gaps for travel across the huge distances.

Malaysia is a decent track, and rain always provides fun!
Also with the crazy first race out of the way we can start to see where teams line up.

Will RBR stay just off pace?
Will any of the others take third place or stay a clusterf**k of level caliber (naturally I hope for the latter).
I also hope RBR will end up being a steady threat to McLaren. A competitive year from top to bottom would just be awesome.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 03:20

Also when you have such a discrepancy with teammates (Alonso and Massa) makes me wonder where the car is exactly? How much over/under performing is going on?
I'm guessing it's either at Massa's level, or at least very close. Man, Alonso is a beast (like him or not) shame he's being held back by his car.

And oi...Ferrari really is looking like suck this year. How the mighty have fallen :(

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 04:28

Pos.	No.	Driver	Constructor	Part 1	Part 2	Part 3	Grid
1	4	Lewis Hamilton	McLaren-Mercedes	1:37.813	1:37.106	1:36.219	1
2	3	Jenson Button	McLaren-Mercedes	1:37.575	1:36.928	1:36.368	2
3	7	Michael Schumacher	Mercedes	1:37.517	1:37.017	1:36.391	3
4	2	Mark Webber	Red Bull-Renault	1:37.172	1:37.375	1:36.461	4
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen	Lotus-Renault	1:37.961	1:36.715	1:36.461	10¹
6	1	Sebastian Vettel	Red Bull-Renault	1:38.102	1:37.419	1:36.634	5
7	10	Romain Grosjean	Lotus-Renault	1:38.058	1:37.338	1:36.658	6
8	8	Nico Rosberg	Mercedes	1:37.696	1:36.996	1:36.664	7
9	5	Fernando Alonso	Ferrari	1:38.151	1:37.379	1:37.566	8
10	15	Sergio Pérez	Sauber-Ferrari	1:37.933	1:37.477	1:37.698	9
11	18	Pastor Maldonado	Williams-Renault	1:37.789	1:37.589		11
12	6	Felipe Massa	Ferrari	1:38.381	1:37.731		12
13	19	Bruno Senna	Williams-Renault	1:38.437	1:37.841		13
14	11	Paul di Resta	Force India-Mercedes	1:38.325	1:37.877		14
15	16	Daniel Ricciardo	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1:38.419	1:37.883		15
16	12	Nico Hülkenberg	Force India-Mercedes	1:38.303	1:37.890		16
17	14	Kamui Kobayashi	Sauber-Ferrari	1:38.372	1:38.069		17
18	17	Jean-Éric Vergne	Toro Rosso-Ferrari	1:39.077			18
19	20	Heikki Kovalainen	Caterham-Renault	1:39.306			24²
20	21	Vitaly Petrov	Caterham-Renault	1:39.567			19
21	24	Timo Glock	Marussia-Cosworth	1:40.903			20
22	25	Charles Pic	Marussia-Cosworth	1:41.250			21
23	22	Pedro de la Rosa	HRT-Cosworth	1:42.914			22
24	23	Narain Karthikeyan	HRT-Cosworth	1:43.655			23
107% time: 1:43.974

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 09:12

Wow. Schumacher was 2nd right 'til the last minute when Button took it. It should be a wonderful race. Let's see if he can finish in the top 5 (top 3 would be great!). I also think Rosberg may do well.

Caterham are coming on better this year. That's great to see. They're really not that far behind the Torro Rosso's.

Alas, I don't have Sky, so it may have to be Radio 5 Live for me and then highlights later. However, it's Football day tomorrow... Wembley here we come (well, not me, I cannot afford it)!

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 09:25

Would you look at that, the top 8 seperated by 0.45s, how many times last year did we see Vettel on poll by more than that?

I'm going to tip Raikkonen for a podium, he looks quick and that Lotus seems good on its tyres.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 09:27

He starts in 10th though, Andy.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 10:37

I know, but I cant see Perez and Alonso holding him up for too long, his car is just that much faster and given the way Mercedes use their tyres I expect he'll be able to get ahead of them sonn enough. That leaves a rather nice fight between the McLarens, Red Bulls and Lotus's for the podium slots.

I can dream at least.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 13:44

No doubt, Kimi has come back after his 2 year hiatus pretty much like he never left.

After one race and 2 quali sessions sure seems like McLaren is the team to beat. If RBR can't close the gap at least we should still have a good fight between Button and Hami. Rest of the field is just up in the air!

Might have to take a nap some point today, I just hate watching the race on tape and I'll be up to 6 am on this one Cry

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 14:49

9 a.m. (for start of coverage) for me and it's not even on BBC. Hmm. So not sure how I'll see it... plus other things are going tomorrow as well.

Grrr.

And Vettel wasn't happy. Awww diddums.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 16:48

Nice runs by Mercedes, goddam.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 21:19

Go Kimi go.

Looking forward to the race.

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 21:58

What's up James? Is it that whole Sky thing? I don't know all the details, have you been cut off from F1? Cry

Man With Hat wrote:

Go Kimi go.

Looking forward to the race.

Aw yeah! So glad my favorite driver is back, and looking so sharp.
Especially with Alonso most likely running in 5th to 8th all season (though that will make most of you happy Angry

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Also James wants Schumi to be in a competitive car???
I also hope so Shocked

, and that he can win a race...these times really have gone berserk!

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Posted: March 24 2012 at 23:30

I've always been a Schumacher fan, even when he was in the dastardly Ferrari. Now he's old and less competitive, I want him to win even more.

And yeah, I don't have access to Satellite channels, so I cannot watch the race. It's not an anti-Sky thing although I happen to dislike Sky too.

It also affects me watching the football as well. Boo.

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Posted: March 25 2012 at 02:48

hmmm could've sworn you hated him.
I guess I just assumed everyone did, I used to even hate Ferrari because he was there (rooted for McLaren and Renault) it wasn't until later I could finally accept liking Ferrari!

And yeah, I joke about him "being human" now but my hate for Schumi started cooling when Alonso beat him for the title. (Now that I know that James, is that part of why you hate Fernando?) Anywho guess that's when Schumi started to become human LOL

I also grew to admire his passion and dedication. Now though it's gone from neutral to wanting him to find success. Aaaah how time changes us

Sorry to hear.

Though I am glad to see some rain, aww yeah this will be nutty

Edited by JJLehto - March 25 2012 at 02:50

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Posted: March 25 2012 at 03:25

ooook maybe not, this has been a boring rain race. Just riding around trying not to crash, guess it's been a bit too heavy.
Glad they red flagged it but I will probably be falling asleep at 7am or later now Cry

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Posted: March 25 2012 at 05:18

Man, Pérez is flying! He is now behind Alonso but making fastest laps and why not, looking for the victory! (let me dream :D)

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