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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:01
Britain's most important people for coming to accept gay people are Oscar Wilde (after the fact, when society came to regret what it did to his career) and Quentin Crisp. Though not particularly famous today, Quentin Crisp was a pioneer of gay fashion and lifestyle and one of the first people in modern Britain to be openly, unapologetically homoseuxal. He got the ball rolling and if not for him, gay rights might be in a very different state today. John Hurt portrayed him brilliantly in two films, The Naked Civil Servant and An Englishman In New York. (Sting wrote that song after meeting Crisp, hence the title of the film.)
He was also extraordinarily witty and a brilliant raconteur.
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:10
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T.
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
Kind of like us.
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:10
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T.
I wonder if it's possible for one person to be L, G, B and T at the same time
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:42
Negoba wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T.
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
Kind of like us.
I stand corrected, in that sense there are. It just sounds a bit cultish. For all who commune, I'm sure there are many others out there who don't and some who don't feel the need to.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:45
Slartibartfast wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T.
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
Kind of like us.
I stand corrected, in that sense there are. It just sounds a bit cultish. For all who commune, I'm sure there are many others out there who don't and some who don't feel the need to.
Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:47
The T wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T.
I wonder if it's possible for one person to be L, G, B and T at the same time
I think you have to start with having your genitals altered, then you could be bisexual but G and L are exclusive meaning you only have sex with your same gender. So logically speaking, I stand corrected again. And whatever your orientation, you have my total support.
Dean wrote:
Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?
Yeah, I live in Atlanta, but we don't have a gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender area of town. Some folks like to display the rainbow flag and it's a better sight than those that display the confederate flag. We also have a confederate "community" around here. Now there's a group of folks who tend to segregate.
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 15 2012 at 15:54
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:06
I've been to Atlanta and there is a big transgender community there. Unsurprisingly though, it's mostly in the SWATS and it sounds like you don't frequent them.
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Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:47
Slartibartfast wrote:
Dean wrote:
Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?
Yeah, I live in Atlanta, but we don't have a gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender area of town. Some folks like to display the rainbow flag and it's a better sight than those that display the confederate flag. We also have a confederate "community" around here. Now there's a group of folks who tend to segregate.
I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.
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Posted: March 16 2012 at 10:11
Epignosis wrote:
Been there twice. Enjoyable and entertaining place.
I haven't been since they put up the recent "attractions".
The family moved down in '72 to a Stone Mountain mailing address so I've been there more times than I can count. More times than I've been to Dixie Dregs concerts, I think.
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 16 2012 at 10:38
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: March 16 2012 at 10:57
colorofmoney91 wrote:
I'm a supporter of the LGBT community and I like to honor their spokespeople such as Harvey Milk, .... (Edit....)
If you're gonna be a dick then don't bother to post, but if you're an admin who seriously sees an ethical problem with this thread then definitely do feel free to close it.
Hi colorofmoney91,
First, I have experienced first hand that it is best not to talk about politics or religion, as it divides more than anything,
overall. Music is something that unites us and we all share in the joy that music brings. Having said this:
Considering all the other way off topic posts here: Pro Religion, Anti Religion, GOP... whatever, I can't imagine how anyone could have a problem with your thread, and not be a hypocrite. I try to stay clear of these threads in general, as I can have strong opinions, and I know that is not what others want to read in this forum, but I do have a very strong opinion about your thread:
Please know that as a proud heterosexual married, family man. I wholeheartedly support you. Having been raised,
Christian in the late 60's & 70's I was taught the principles of Christ, which were about love, inclusion & compassion
for my fellow man(that's men & women in 21st century parlance) I am full of flaws and I try to hold true to "Let he who is perfect cast the first stone" You will see no stone throwing from me.
As I get older, it is bitterly disappointing to me to see how the USA Christian movement(in general-not all) has devolved to a band of powerful & hateful temple leaders that Christ never approved of and preached against. Intolerance & bigotry are not family values and never will be, to me. This curent movement to discriminate against gays behind the hollow rhetoric of "defense of marriage" is most un-Christ-like, and offensive to me, personally as a heterosexual.
I pray for a day where people who claim to be of "faith" will come back to the actual values that Christ himself taught.
I am not gay, perhaps you are? Dunno. I could never imagine myself in a position to judge, Heterosexuals have done such evil & warmongering. What ill could I possible hold against LGBT people???
About your topic. It does seem basic rock has more LGBT artists, than Prog.. Freddie Murcury, Rob Halford, Billy Squire, K.D. Lang, Elton John, all ROCK artists. Though the keyboardist from J. Tull was mentioned here already.
I would hope that Progressive Music aspires to "progress" past simple bigotry and LGBT issues would not really be an issue here either way.
Its all about the music baby!!!!!!!
Cheers!
Oh, and I do love dearly the music of Reginald Dwight 1969 - 1976.
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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