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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:01

Britain's most important people for coming to accept gay people are Oscar Wilde (after the fact, when society came to regret what it did to his career) and Quentin Crisp. Though not particularly famous today, Quentin Crisp was a pioneer of gay fashion and lifestyle and one of the first people in modern Britain to be openly, unapologetically homoseuxal. He got the ball rolling and if not for him, gay rights might be in a very different state today. John Hurt portrayed him brilliantly in two films, The Naked Civil Servant and An Englishman In New York. (Sting wrote that song after meeting Crisp, hence the title of the film.)

He was also extraordinarily witty and a brilliant raconteur.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.

There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T. 
 
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
 
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
 
Kind of like us. 
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T. 
I wonder if it's possible for one person to be L, G, B and T at the same time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:42
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.

There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T. 
 
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
 
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
 
Kind of like us. 

I stand corrected, in that sense there are.  It just sounds a bit cultish.  For all who commune, I'm sure there are many others out there who don't and some who don't feel the need to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:45
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.

There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T. 
 
There are most certainly LGBT communities.
 
I have several adult family members who are out, and have found LGBT communities in multiple metro areas. People with specific interests that are not in common with the majority tend to find others with whom they can identify.
 
Kind of like us. 

I stand corrected, in that sense there are.  It just sounds a bit cultish.  For all who commune, I'm sure there are many others out there who don't and some who don't feel the need to.
Confused Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 15:47
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ LGBT is a self-designation used by the LGBT community as a means of recognising themselves without the innacuracy of the phrase "gay community" and all the associated excess bagage and social stigma that comes with it - it's their word, let them use it.
There is no LGBT community only people who are L G B and T. 
I wonder if it's possible for one person to be L, G, B and T at the same time

I think you have to start with having your genitals altered, then you could be bisexual but G and L are exclusive meaning you only have sex with your same gender.  So logically speaking, I stand corrected again.  And whatever your orientation, you have my total support. Big smile

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Confused Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?

Yeah, I live in Atlanta, but we don't have a gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender area of town.  Some folks like to display the rainbow flag and it's a better sight than those that display the confederate flag.  We also have a confederate "community" around here.Unhappy  Now there's a group of folks who tend to segregate.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:06

I've been to Atlanta and there is a big transgender community there. Unsurprisingly though, it's mostly in the SWATS and it sounds like you don't frequent them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 17:47
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

 
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Confused Do you know what the LGBT community is? Do you know the "rainbow" flag Alan showed in the OP?

Yeah, I live in Atlanta, but we don't have a gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender area of town.  Some folks like to display the rainbow flag and it's a better sight than those that display the confederate flag.  We also have a confederate "community" around here.Unhappy  Now there's a group of folks who tend to segregate.

I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.
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I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.


I grew up with a lot of Confederate enthusiasm around.  I find it kind of weird, really.

But the South will rise again, right?  Ermm


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 18:41
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.


I grew up with a lot of Confederate enthusiasm around.  I find it kind of weird, really.

But the South will rise again, right?  Ermm



I hope not. That sounds terrible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 19:12
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.


I grew up with a lot of Confederate enthusiasm around.  I find it kind of weird, really.

But the South will rise again, right?  Ermm



I hope not. That sounds terrible.


Do not fear.

We're far too busy working on cars that can never run, drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon until we pass out, and watching reruns of Jerry Springer.


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^^ nice smiley! very realistic.. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 19:16
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I went to high school with the local confederate community. I hated it.


I grew up with a lot of Confederate enthusiasm around.  I find it kind of weird, really.

But the South will rise again, right?  Ermm




Stone Mountain is pretty cool though and I don't have a problem with the carving.
File:StoneMountain.jpg


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Been there twice.  Enjoyable and entertaining place.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 20:03
Oh, the temptation to remove all posts that come between Rob's last post and Textbook's Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2012 at 20:47
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Oh, the temptation to remove all posts that come between Rob's last post and Textbook's Embarrassed


Hush now.  You only leave them there to shame us! 
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Been there twice.  Enjoyable and entertaining place.  Smile


I haven't been since they put up the recent "attractions".

The family moved down in '72 to a Stone Mountain mailing address so I've been there more times than I can count.  More times than I've been to Dixie Dregs concerts, I think.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2012 at 10:57
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I'm a supporter of the LGBT community and I like to honor their spokespeople such as Harvey Milk, ....   (Edit....)
If you're gonna be a dick then don't bother to post, but if you're an admin who seriously sees an ethical problem with this thread then definitely do feel free to close it. 

 
Hi colorofmoney91,
 
First, I have experienced first hand that it is best not to talk about politics or religion, as it divides more than anything,
overall.  Music is something that unites us and we all share in the joy that music brings.  Having said this:
 
Considering all the other way off topic posts here:  Pro Religion, Anti Religion, GOP... whatever, I can't imagine how anyone could have a problem with your thread, and not be a hypocrite.  I try to stay clear of these threads in general, as I can have strong opinions, and I know that is not what others want to read in this forum, but I do have a very strong opinion about your thread:
 
Please know that as a proud heterosexual married, family man.  I wholeheartedly support you.  Having been raised,
Christian in the late 60's & 70's I was taught the principles of Christ, which were about love, inclusion & compassion
for my fellow man(that's men & women in 21st century parlanceWink) I am full of flaws and I try to hold true to "Let he who is perfect cast the first stone"  You will see no stone throwing from me.
 
As I get older, it is bitterly disappointing to me to see how the USA Christian movement(in general-not all) has devolved to a band of powerful & hateful temple leaders that Christ never approved of and preached against. Intolerance & bigotry are not family values and never will be, to me. This curent movement to discriminate against gays behind the hollow rhetoric of "defense of marriage" is most un-Christ-like, and offensive to me, personally as a heterosexual.
 
I pray for a day where people who claim to be of "faith" will come back to the actual values that Christ himself taught.
 
I am not gay, perhaps you are? Dunno. I could never imagine myself in a position to judge, Heterosexuals have done such evil & warmongering.  What ill could I possible hold against LGBT people???
 
About your topic.  It does seem basic rock has more LGBT artists, than Prog..  Freddie Murcury, Rob Halford, Billy Squire, K.D. Lang, Elton John, all ROCK artists.  Though the keyboardist from J. Tull was mentioned here already.
 
I would hope that Progressive Music aspires to "progress" past simple bigotry and LGBT issues would not really be an issue here either way.
 
Its all about the music baby!!!!!!!
 
Cheers! Tongue
 
Oh, and I do love dearly the music of Reginald Dwight  1969 - 1976.
 
 
 
"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2012 at 11:19
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Edited -  Slartibartfast's excellent "traditional" marriage options
 
Having studied the bible as a young lad, I did not know I had so many options.
(The Sisters hid some stuff from me, obvioulsy.Confused)
 
Slartibartfast, I will assume you posted this to ask for our preferences??
 
I would pick:
 
1st:  The man & wife & concubines option.  I'm guessing the concubines legally could not nag at you
like a wife can?  What man needs a wife's nagging??? I regret that this option includes a wife at all. 
Why not an all concubine option??? 
 
2nd: The man & wife & other wife option.  Next best thing out there.Wink
 
WTF category:  Slave man & slave women.  If I had female slaves, why on earth would I let any other man,
let alone a slave man get his hands on my slave women???  This option is just stupid dumb.Angry
 
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