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The T 
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 Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:29 |
As if we didn't have enough categories in PA already...
I feel the need to create a thread based on prog rock artists with gastrointestinal problems; hey, I feel identified.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:16 |
 Textbook wrote:
Neal Morse, though he's closeted. |
There's a difference between the music being homoerotic, which basically applies to all progressive rock but especially symphonic prog, and the musicians actually being homosexual or not
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Andy Webb
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:08 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Neal Morse, though he's closeted. |
This is not okay to say. |
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:05 |
Epignosis wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
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It's not, though.
I'm mostly trying to get at the possibility that maybe LGBT prog musicians might have their own style, not as a group, but as individuals who write about their own experiences or whatever. Kind of like how Robert Johnson wrote songs about being black and sad and also had his own defining blues style, perhaps a someone in the gay community also has their very own style that has to do with their personal life style or whatever. Like Jonsi.
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Ah! Thanks for the edit! I understand. 
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:04 |
Epignosis wrote:
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
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It's not, though. |
I apologize. That isn't what I wished to say. What I don't understand is why homosexuality is such a "thing." I mean, I'm heterosexual, but I don't go about advertising it or making a thing of it.
I don't go about making a thing of whom I f**k. That's all I'm wondering: Why is it that the fact that some man f**ks a man or some woman likes a woman so important to us? It isn't to me. I don't regard their sexuality as a different "class of prog."
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Neither do I. I revised my response to your post to make my intentions clearer.
Anyway, sexual orientation doesn't mean much to me because I consider all people to be people. I just wanted to recognize and honor LGBT prog musicians on this site as kind of a "good thing" to do because of all the negativity regarding the community in the news lately (the suicides and whatever else). I just wanted to be positive.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:02 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
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It's not, though.
I'm mostly trying to get at the possibility that maybe LGBT prog musicians might have their own style, not as a group, but as individuals who write about their own experiences or whatever. Kind of like how Robert Johnson wrote songs about being black and sad and also had his own defining blues style, perhaps a someone in the gay community also has their very own style that has to do with their personal life style or whatever. Like Jonsi.
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Ah! Thanks for the edit! I understand.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 21:00 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
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It's not, though. |
I apologize. That isn't what I wished to say. What I don't understand is why homosexuality is such a "thing." I mean, I'm heterosexual, but I don't go about advertising it or making a thing of it.
I don't go about making a thing of whom I f**k. That's all I'm wondering: Why is it that the fact that some man f**ks a man or some woman likes a woman so important to us? It isn't to me. I don't regard their sexuality as a different "class of prog."
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:59 |
Textbook wrote:
Neal Morse, though he's closeted. |
This is not okay to say.
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:54 |
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count me as a friend of the entire LGBT community, in music or not-- 'course I grew up in S.F. so I guess I really don't count. Ah well.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:52 |
Epignosis wrote:
In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
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It's not, though.
I'm mostly trying to get at the possibility that maybe LGBT prog musicians might have their own style, not as a group, but as individuals who write about their own experiences or whatever. Kind of like how Robert Johnson wrote songs about being black and sad and also had his own defining blues style, perhaps a someone in the gay community also has their very own style that has to do with their personal life style or whatever. Like Jonsi.
Edited by colorofmoney91 - March 14 2012 at 20:58
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:50 |
Textbook wrote:
Neal Morse, though he's closeted. |
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The only ethical problem is when people speculate and "out"
artists who haven't made any public announcement to their sexual
orientation. If that happens we will be hiding a few posts and having
quiet words in people's ears. Otherwise, no problems, carry on. |
Edited by Epignosis - March 14 2012 at 20:51
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Textbook
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:49 |
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Neal Morse, though he's closeted.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 20:37 |
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In the course of many edits, I phrased this question many ways, but I'm just going to go with this:
Why is homosexuality a defining characteristic when it comes to music?
Edited by Epignosis - March 14 2012 at 20:42
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:48 |
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Oh cool, I've not listened to them but I've read some good reviews. I've been meaning to check them out but I always forget.
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Warthur
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:45 |
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Robert John Godfrey of The Enid is gay and talks about what that means to him personally to a fairly regular extent.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:41 |
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I guess I give up.
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gen77c
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:37 |
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ah, I thought this thread was more like LGBT fans of prog. Those who break the stereotype of just listening to Bjork and electropop and disco and Barbra Streisand... that would be interesting to know....
well, count me in there...
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 19:36 |
I wasn't referring to you, Slarti :)
It seems like people are more interested on voicing their approval of LGBT folk in general.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 18:57 |
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You are looking for L G B or T prog musicians. If they are out there they are either out or you likely won't know who they are.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Dean
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Posted: March 14 2012 at 18:53 |
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...and this surprises you because....
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What?
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