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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:08
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

But an exception must be held for this Pat......someday I will have this.  Big smile  From Pat's south Philly

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Not to be a dick but I was there and quite unimpressed.
I've had better cheesesteaks outside Phlly!
Well, at least outside of that place, there may be other less known ones in the city that are better.

I'm not a big fan of the wizz version.  I likes me some provole.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:32
I think provolone on a cheesesteak to be something of an abomination. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:39
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Libertarian friends!

I've been thinking about the Fed.
Well, more like I've thinking about the price of everything and how it keeps skyrocketing. It's something that really chokes middle America, I know my family made some changes for 2012 to be in a better financial situation but the price of living has negated it largely.

I never really gave it thought, but isn't the Fed like...supposed to help with that stuff?
I'll admit, I really don't know much about it except generalities.
Soooo recommend me some reads gentlemen. I'm open right now, not necessarily removing it, but changing it maybe, but I just want some info.

What it does, impacts, theories on how it could be better (or what'd happen if removed outright). I'm all ears right now. I know Ron Paul has written on the matter.

edit: please no anti fed rants at the moment eitherLOL


Ron Paul's work on the matter is nice, but it's more of a populist low-level explanation than anything else. A nice easy text while still being formal is Murray Rothbard's The Case Against the Fed. You can read it for free through the link. It goes through the Fed's function, its history, and reasons for eliminating it. That's obviously taking the stand against it. For something more pro, there's a largely influential work which deserves reading: Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz's: A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960.

You could read Bernanke's intro-macro economics textbook for a nice intro, and obviously pro, to banking and the Fed. I actually learned from Bernanke's textbook: Principles of Macroeconomics written in conjunction with Robert Frank.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 15:57
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I think provolone on a cheesesteak to be something of an abomination. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:03
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Libertarian friends!

I've been thinking about the Fed.
Well, more like I've thinking about the price of everything and how it keeps skyrocketing. It's something that really chokes middle America, I know my family made some changes for 2012 to be in a better financial situation but the price of living has negated it largely.

I never really gave it thought, but isn't the Fed like...supposed to help with that stuff?
I'll admit, I really don't know much about it except generalities.
Soooo recommend me some reads gentlemen. I'm open right now, not necessarily removing it, but changing it maybe, but I just want some info.

What it does, impacts, theories on how it could be better (or what'd happen if removed outright). I'm all ears right now. I know Ron Paul has written on the matter.

edit: please no anti fed rants at the moment eitherLOL


Ron Paul's work on the matter is nice, but it's more of a populist low-level explanation than anything else. A nice easy text while still being formal is Murray Rothbard's The Case Against the Fed. You can read it for free through the link. It goes through the Fed's function, its history, and reasons for eliminating it. That's obviously taking the stand against it. For something more pro, there's a largely influential work which deserves reading: Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz's: A Monetary History of the United States 1867-1960.

You could read Bernanke's intro-macro economics textbook for a nice intro, and obviously pro, to banking and the Fed. I actually learned from Bernanke's textbook: Principles of Macroeconomics written in conjunction with Robert Frank.


I was hoping for something  legit though ideally not too difficult, so cool. Figured you of all would have some. I will probably pass on Paul then, for now.

Should've thought about FriedmanEmbarrassed
Thanks a lot man.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:05
Back to cheesesteaks. Back to topic
I've never had a whizz version so I really don't know what I am missing. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:10
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Back to cheesesteaks. Back to topic
I've never had a whizz version so I really don't know what I am missing. 


Provolone is good for a nice change occaisonally. American or wiz to me really represents the true taste. I love the taste of wiz personally, but it offers a distinct advantage in cheese distribution. Uncareful steak makers can force the cheese to existing only in one particular region when you take cross sectional areas of the sandwich. Wiz allows easily for a completely uniform distribution. It's one of the particular advantages of it.

Like most things though, the roll really makes or breaks the sandwich. The cheese is usually the least important part for a cheesesteak.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:27
Gotta be American cheese for me.

You ever been to "Tony Luke's"? The Man v. Food guy went there. Not sure if it's any good..but I guess you can get a 20" cheesesteak.

And god...I f**kin hate that back to topic smiley so damn much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:35
Back to topicTongue

My favorite new one isSmoke orBowdown


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 16:42
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Gotta be American cheese for me.

You ever been to "Tony Luke's"? The Man v. Food guy went there. Not sure if it's any good..but I guess you can get a 20" cheesesteak.

And god...I f**kin hate that back to topic smiley so damn much.


Actually you can't get it. It was made for the show as a stunt. It's not something they actually offer. I think they made good steaks, but it's really nothing great. They have an amazing roast pork though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 17:51
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Back to topicTongue

My favorite new one isSmoke orBowdown



Ah but I knew you would do that so it doesn't make me angry, not like that first time when you meant it...oh that made me rage.

And what are you saying? Marijuana is illegal sirStern Smile

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Gotta be American cheese for me.

You ever been to "Tony Luke's"? The Man v. Food guy went there. Not sure if it's any good..but I guess you can get a 20" cheesesteak.

And god...I f**kin hate that back to topic smiley so damn much.


Actually you can't get it. It was made for the show as a stunt. It's not something they actually offer. I think they made good steaks, but it's really nothing great. They have an amazing roast pork though.


Oh damn. Because I'm pretty sure I could've eaten that. (I had almost 2 pounds of hamburgerShocked)
You and this roast pork man.
Actually I did see something about that on Food Network. At least in one place, I forget the name but they used sharp cheddar and broccoli rabe and it looked pretty amazing.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 18:03
And thanks Pat, this is two fold since I also need some normal reading material...I'm a bit tired of these avant garde books I've been reading. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 22:51
Cheese is a fascist's favorite dish. It's obvious. Steak is more libertarian really. This discussion makes no gastronomical sense. End. The. Fed. Food.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 10:25
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

And thanks Pat, this is two fold since I also need some normal reading material...I'm a bit tired of these avant garde books I've been reading. 


No problem.

Yeah roast pork gets sharp provolone though. The sharp cheddar idea made me furious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 11:10
For anyone who ever wonders why I hate Bob Barr and mock his supposed Libertarian credentials:

Bob Barr: Libertarians should vote for Newt

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 15:51
I do know he was one of the most Conservative members of Congress, so yeah...going Libertarian seems odd, especially when saying to vote for Newt!
I always assumed he was one of the "rich libertarians" I talk about. Those who want less government for themselves and people like them but really don't give a sh*t, and tend to be authoritarian in thought...

I'm sure I told you about the Ron Paul "supporter" I knew (with his off shore bank account) who also liked Putin? f**kin Vlad Putin....and Ron Paul. Because those seem to be likely companionsLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 17:18
I followed Babar's editorials in the paper for a while and indeed he did drift libertarian after he wasn't in office, but apparently he's lost his mind again. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 17:26
Libertarian guy rooting for Newt?

Repeating myself, next we'll have Simon Wiesenthal supporting the Nazi Party.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 17:33
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Libertarian guy rooting for Newt?

Repeating myself, next we'll have Simon Wiesenthal supporting the Nazi Party.

Bob Barr was libertarian on the editorial pages after his last term but as a con gressman he wasn't.  So he's supporting an old bud.  That's all you need to know about that I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2012 at 18:21
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

For anyone who ever wonders why I hate Bob Barr and mock his supposed Libertarian credentials:

Bob Barr: Libertarians should vote for Newt


Bob Barr is as libertarian as Barack Obama.
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