timothy leary wrote: They cause accidents by making people overly cautious. I think I saw statistics which said there was an increase in rear end collisions due to red light cameras. All red light camera citations are looked at by the police before being issued. If any portion of your vehicle is in the intersection and the light is yellow.....you are good to go.

I haven't looked at any stats for a few years before they became really prevalent, but I seem to remember back then the results being that they made no difference in accident rates.

Yeah and your bolded part is a joke. Cops looks at them, but the same guy is looking at 500 of these things in a day. They're just flipping through quickly, and there's no human element to it. They'll send you a ticket no matter how far through the intersection you are when the camera flashes.

^As I said, a person and his dog will do...

This gave me a good laugh.

Monday is "Presidents' Day."  I will celebrate same by honoring the best president this country ever had: William Henry Harrison.  He caught pneumonia on inauguration day and died a month later, leaving him little time for mischief.  Do you see what penicillin has done to us?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: This gave me a good laugh. Monday is "Presidents' Day."  I will celebrate same by honoring the best president this country ever had: William Henry Harrison.  He caught pneumonia on inauguration day and died a month later, leaving him little time for mischief.  Do you see what penicillin has done to us?

Edited by The T - February 17 2012 at 11:55

timothy leary wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: timothy leary wrote: They cause accidents by making people overly cautious. I think I saw statistics which said there was an increase in rear end collisions due to red light cameras. All red light camera citations are looked at by the police before being issued. If any portion of your vehicle is in the intersection and the light is yellow.....you are good to go. I haven't looked at any stats for a few years before they became really prevalent, but I seem to remember back then the results being that they made no difference in accident rates. Yeah and your bolded part is a joke. Cops looks at them, but the same guy is looking at 500 of these things in a day. They're just flipping through quickly, and there's no human element to it. They'll send you a ticket no matter how far through the intersection you are when the camera flashes. Where is your proof that they send you a ticket without a review of the pictures?

I didn't say that. I said that officers are inundated with these photos and also are more likely to give  ticket by writing it to a faceless person rather than pulling someone over on the street. To prove this I just point to simple numbers and human psychology.

To prove the fact that they hand tickets to anyone remotely in the intersection, I only have anecdotal evidence. You can get them overturned pretty easily, but it still requires you to go through the rather tedious and expensive process of that.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: timothy leary wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: timothy leary wrote: They cause accidents by making people overly cautious. I think I saw statistics which said there was an increase in rear end collisions due to red light cameras. All red light camera citations are looked at by the police before being issued. If any portion of your vehicle is in the intersection and the light is yellow.....you are good to go. I haven't looked at any stats for a few years before they became really prevalent, but I seem to remember back then the results being that they made no difference in accident rates. Yeah and your bolded part is a joke. Cops looks at them, but the same guy is looking at 500 of these things in a day. They're just flipping through quickly, and there's no human element to it. They'll send you a ticket no matter how far through the intersection you are when the camera flashes. Where is your proof that they send you a ticket without a review of the pictures? I didn't say that. I said that officers are inundated with these photos and also are more likely to give  ticket by writing it to a faceless person rather than pulling someone over on the street. To prove this I just point to simple numbers and human psychology. To prove the fact that they hand tickets to anyone remotely in the intersection, I only have anecdotal evidence. You can get them overturned pretty easily, but it still requires you to go through the rather tedious and expensive process of that.

Here in Seattle they are particularly violent without the need.

This is not libertarian or anything but rant I need to. I'm waiting for a few things to get done on my girl's car and I watch tv in the waiting room. I watch about 25 minutes of BBC news and I'm able to see news about the US and about the world, and actual real issues at that. Then I tune in to CNN: non-stop coverage of Whitney Houston's death... All the time... The only subject...

Actually, there is a libertarian link. The channel was not really BBC but it was running on PBS.

PBS: the only government-run thing worth keeping, and better than the private sh*t.. .

The T wrote: This is not libertarian or anything but rant I need to. I'm waiting for a few things to get done on my girl's car and I watch tv in the waiting room. I watch about 25 minutes of BBC news and I'm able to see news about the US and about the world, and actual real issues at that. Then I tune in to CNN: non-stop coverage of Whitney Houston's death... All the time... The only subject... Actually, there is a libertarian link. The channel was not really BBC but it was running on PBS. PBS: the only government-run thing worth keeping, and better than the private sh*t.. .

Tsk-tsk - the BBC is government run - just not your government.