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manofmystery 
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 Posted: February 06 2012 at 16:37 |
It was a bit sad to see someone who has labelled themselves a libertarian, in the past, starring in a Super Bowl commerical for a car company that has taken taxpayer money (via the force of government) on multiple occasions.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 16:59 |
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Who was that? I didn't see most of the commercials.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 17:02 |
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Clint Eastwood in a Chryler (/obama) ad that everyone on tv is falling over backwards to praise today.
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Time always wins.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 17:05 |
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I didn't realize he had called himself a libertarian. I just call him overrated.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 17:39 |
Librarian thread #1: shhhhh. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 17:48 |
My buddy from work says he is now running against the unopposed Democratic incumbent mayor or Raeford. He called the Libertarian Headquarters here and got the nomination over the phone.
"Well, if you really want it, you've got it." 
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King of Loss
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 22:31 |
 Epignosis wrote:
My buddy from work says he is now running against the unopposed Democratic incumbent mayor or Raeford. He called the Libertarian Headquarters here and got the nomination over the phone.
"Well, if you really want it, you've got it."
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 15:31 |
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In his essay, one of my students thanks the federal government for keeping us safe by taking away some of our freedoms.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 15:58 |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:07 |
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When grading the essay, you should thank the student and his stupidity for keeping you sane allowing you to take away some of his points...
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:25 |
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Quite a few of them will say this, but can you blame them? They were kindergarteners when the World Trade Center fell. All they know is what the media and their parents tell them. Too bad most of them won't grow out of that
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:32 |
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I don't blame them yet. I blame the teachers who came before you who reinforce this idea and the top-down one way street style of education.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 14:54 |
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Two questions:
What's this fascination with small businesses over big ones? Yes, most big ones I guess started small, but from a worker's perspective, which one will be more likely to be able to afford benefits, time off, and all of that? I don't know that much people but the little evidence I can see points to big companies being better in general to work for than small, family-owned ones.
Two, could government regulation have stopped the stock crash of 1929?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:03 |
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Smaller businesses tend to be more responsive and attached to their communities. They're more likely to charge fair prices, have reasonable exchange policies, not pollute, etc. etc. They also presumably avoid some of the waste associated with the bureaucracy of huge companies. Psychologically I think they just come off as more personal and more relocatable as being run by people rather than being run by evil personified in a rich greedy CEO. From a libertarian standpoint, big businesses also tend to take advantaged of systems of socialized cost and privatized profits (transportation costs for example) or receive overt government aid in the form of bailouts or contracts.
Regulations could have stopped the particular crash that occurred, but a depression would have followed at some point. Government regulation of course contributed to many of the issues. If you look at bank failures, particularly comparing them here to the case of Canada, unit banking laws for example greatly exacerbated this problem.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Negoba
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:27 |
What he said...
The more complex the system, the more removed its functioning is from the individual.
Since presumably the purpose of any business or social system is to serve the individual humans that comprise it rather than the organization itself, bigger inherently has disadvantages. OTOH, of course, the more individuals involved, the greater collective achievement can be made from pooled resources.
The less you need from the system, the more freedom from its vagaries you will have.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:50 |
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Just makin sure yall still hate the government.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 20:11 |
JJLehto wrote:
Just makin sure yall still hate the government.
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Careful with that type of language:
What are you trying to do, get us all hauled off to gitmo?
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Time always wins.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 20:49 |
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^Ut oh. That could be troublesome for me :(
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: February 09 2012 at 22:31 |
^Who would have thought even I would be a subject of interest under those parameters... 
Well, actually, I would've gone down much longer ago for what I have always said about the police...
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 10 2012 at 00:18 |
Almost every day for months, (and still for a bit for several more months) I visited 4chan and /b/. Not to mention had bum friends that knew how to get into our apt and would just use our comps, often going on 4chan. If I have not been arrested by now, we all are safe.
Edited by JJLehto - February 10 2012 at 00:19
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