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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:45
I'm more of a dog person personally. 
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:46
You have a good point, but a cat would never f**k with a rodent as large as a human!
That idea has been scrapped anyway, apparently I'm now drafting Symph X to run.

NJ needs some representation besides that god awful PoS TV show
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:48
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm more of a dog person personally. 
Well there was that time when my white lab cornered a 'possum out in the backyard...

Whatever, ya end up cleaning it up.
Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:49
Gorilla, just sayin'
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:53
An......animal collective?

*puts on sunglasses*

yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

OK sorry, I apologize for thatEmbarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:56
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:



OK David, you and I. The Symphony X for Government movement. I may have to put my "Animals as Leaders" movement on hold.

I didn't know about the Animals as Leaders one. Can we start with "Tosin Abasi 4 Prez" first. Pleeeeeeeeeease?! Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:56
Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:57
Not sure how much I'm legally allowed to quote, so we'll have to consider this a review:

They say animals don't worry, they're living on nuts and berries,
They ought to be more careful, they're setting a bad example,

sh*t on the ground...etc.

I have always loved that song. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:57
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

An......animal collective?

*puts on sunglasses*

yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

OK sorry, I apologize for thatEmbarrassed

I was hoping someone would offer up such a reply. You just did it before me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:58
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza



Oh gyspy biscuits!
I guess I can't be surprised, coming from the guy who said we are not entitled to a right of privacy, even in the bedroom.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 20:59
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza


Would you allow for individual states to pass such measures?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:01
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza


Would you allow for individual states to pass such measures?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I personally would not. I think that's one of those decisions that should be left up to individuals to decide.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:03
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Did anyone know that Santorum thinks that contraception should be able to be banned? Wowza


Would you allow for individual states to pass such measures?


I mean I wouldn't agree with it, but if the State's constitution allows for it I wouldn't do anything as a federal politician besides speaking about the immorality of such a ban. I haven't read many State's constitutions, but I find it hard to believe that it would really be cool with them in most states.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:03
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/
 
The "Energy" component and the frequent pandering to the uneducated with his use of "free market" shows someone out of touch with the realities our world faces. I don't like the alternatives either. I wish we really did have a candidate more interested in a functional society than political BS. But he's not it.


Or it shows someone who has to sum up a complex issue in a paragraph on their campaign website to pander to the short attention spans of voters.

You might want to look into someone's views before you starting slinging insults around. There's plenty written about free market environmentalism.

I've looked into his views on the environment. I chose to try to quote what he's most willing to be pinned down on. Whether simplified or not, this is what he's advertising to the world as his position. Other quotes I've seen from him are actually more worrisome for folks like me.

This isn't the only place I'm having this conversation. Lots of not-really-disenfranchised American citizens are being attracted to this guy out of a desire for a true departure from business as usual. It's actually by spending the time to dig that some are finding that he's not what (we'd) hoped.

I have nothing against the idea of free market environmentalism, though I have little faith that anything approaching a free market will ever exist on a large scale. I have everything for fixing problems bottom up.  
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:05
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:


I've looked into his views on the environment. I chose to try to quote what he's most willing to be pinned down on. Whether simplified or not, this is what he's advertising to the world as his position. Other quotes I've seen from him are actually more worrisome for folks like me.

This isn't the only place I'm having this conversation. Lots of not-really-disenfranchised American citizens are being attracted to this guy out of a desire for a true departure from business as usual. It's actually by spending the time to dig that some are finding that he's not what (we'd) hoped.

I have nothing against the idea of free market environmentalism, though I have little faith that anything approaching a free market will ever exist on a large scale. I have everything for fixing problems bottom up.  


What do you specifically not like about his policy?
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:06
Originally posted by horsewithteeth11 horsewithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

An......animal collective?

*puts on sunglasses*

yyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

OK sorry, I apologize for thatEmbarrassed

I was hoping someone would offer up such a reply. You just did it before me.


I always deliver babeh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:07
I'm eligible to be President this year.  Just sayin'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:11
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

I'm eligible to be President this year.  Just sayin'.


Imma vote for you k

Federal ban on state regulations of alcohol?  Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 21:11
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:


I've looked into his views on the environment. I chose to try to quote what he's most willing to be pinned down on. Whether simplified or not, this is what he's advertising to the world as his position. Other quotes I've seen from him are actually more worrisome for folks like me.

This isn't the only place I'm having this conversation. Lots of not-really-disenfranchised American citizens are being attracted to this guy out of a desire for a true departure from business as usual. It's actually by spending the time to dig that some are finding that he's not what (we'd) hoped.

I have nothing against the idea of free market environmentalism, though I have little faith that anything approaching a free market will ever exist on a large scale. I have everything for fixing problems bottom up.  


What do you specifically not like about his policy?


Well besides not recognizing Tosin as a demigod...

I'm very skeptical that personal properties rights and tort protections of the same are sufficient to maintain the integrity of the ecosystem that yes is very pretty and all that but more selfishly keeps us humans alive. For one it's too slow, and the idea is that "stewardship" is actually increased when you're taking care of your own personal property. I don't buy that. The cause and effect are just too far separated. 




Edited by Negoba - January 05 2012 at 21:25
You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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>Ignore discussion
>Don't post about Ron Paul
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