Libertarian Thread #2: We Shall Never Die!

I prefer the Dutch healthcare model. Read up on it.

If they had implemented an NHS in the 30s along with SS no one would want to get rid of it.

Padraic wrote: If they had implemented an NHS in the 30s along with SS no one would want to get rid of it.

Hm that makes me think. I was wrong, that time period was absolutely the best chance America had for it.

James wrote: Nobody in the UK wants to get rid of the NHS, yet somehow the Tories are dismantling it.  It's really quite bizarre and scary.

Indeed, as you said the private health sector is understandably opposed to it and that is a very large, powerful and established sector! Overcoming that is a daunting task.

It's kind of funny Obama/the Dems got some praise for "getting the private sector on board" with the healthcare bill, because all the bill does is add 30+ million people to the private insurance sector. Can't imagine why they agreed to fund part of the bill! Can't imagine at all

You are right, the US system is certainly not a free market! Like energy providers in many states, health care is some crazy patchwork quilt with little if any competition.
Since universal is a far, far away dream and our current system sucks, guess might as well open it up to competition.
As usual a tad skeptical of that, but things can't be a bigger clusterf**k than now. Worth a try, maybe it'll be a bit cheaper to us.

The left-wing media already starting to attack their feared Ron Paul with idiotic articles like this which shows a total misunderstanding of everything.

The T wrote: The left-wing media already starting to attack their feared Ron Paul with idiotic articles like this which shows a total misunderstanding of everything.

"Progressives who are considering a move from the Democratic Party in order to support Ron Paul are out of their blessed gourds"

Well...one line into the article and I am already being called a loon
I am joining this "Blue Republican" movement aka for 2012 registering Republican to vote Paul in the primaries.
Can always just go to Independent later and it's not a hassle really, especially to get him over the other Republicans.

Oh, ok...might as well read the rest of that article now.

edit: Wow, by the end of paragraph 3 I kind of want to stop. THIS is what's wrong with the country. Jesus Christ, it's truly impossible to get information that is just that...I mean there's a time and place for sensationalized media (I guess) but it's all we ever see!

edit edit: aaaand I'm done. This person is quoting something they probably saw on Wikipedia the "Paul is the most conservative member of Congress in 80 years" thing. I saw that Wiki blurb as well....this author doesn't even get that libertarian isn't conservative. OR purposely misinforming. Either way f**k this, why can't we get just straight to the facts reporting/opinions sometimes?




Edited by JJLehto - January 05 2012 at 09:09

The T wrote: The left-wing media already starting to attack their feared Ron Paul with idiotic articles like this which shows a total misunderstanding of everything.

stonebeard wrote: The T wrote: The left-wing media already starting to attack their feared Ron Paul with idiotic articles like this which shows a total misunderstanding of everything. Jesus Christ that was one weepy, naive, misinformed, pathetic tantrum. I have reservations about many of Paul's more extreme positions, but this guy clearly thinks in black ad white, progressive and conservative, and apparently doesn't realize that his precious Obama is continuing the long tradition of bankrupting America with unsustainable policies.