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Horizons
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Posted: December 19 2011 at 10:47 |
Negoba wrote:
Peter Gabriel solo, naturally. |
This.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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DiamondDog
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Posted: December 21 2011 at 10:46 |
A lot of these posts seem to be talking about pop chart success rather than just the genre as the question seemed to suggest. If anyone deserves the doubtful accolade of prog pop makes then it would be Clouds, who in a way had that very problem.
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Posted: December 22 2011 at 19:49 |
Genesis first two Post Gabriel albums are really beautiful, and in many ways pop.
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Posted: December 22 2011 at 21:08 |
I don't see Trespass being pop.
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Posted: December 25 2011 at 20:55 |
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For me it's Rush. Even in their most progressive years, there were always tracks like Something For Nothing, Closer To The Heart, Circumstances, Entre Nous, Freewill, Limelight etc around which managed to sound ready for the radio (though many of them weren't even singles) without being stupid or predictable. Perhaps because they were younger than a lot of their prog peers, they found the shift to pop rock and synths a lot more natural, and Peart's refusal to write dumb lyrics helped too. |
I agree. In my opinion, all of Rush's more pop-rock oriented 80's albums are worth four stars at least, if not five. They were always songwriters at heart anyway, unlike other 70's prog greats who could well be classified as "composers" in the classical sense. That's really where Rush separated themselves from most of the other 70's prog bands; they were able to lose "proginess" without losing quality.
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Posted: December 25 2011 at 20:58 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Textbook wrote:
For me it's Rush. Even in their most progressive years, there were always tracks like Something For Nothing, Closer To The Heart, Circumstances, Entre Nous, Freewill, Limelight etc around which managed to sound ready for the radio (though many of them weren't even singles) without being stupid or predictable. Perhaps because they were younger than a lot of their prog peers, they found the shift to pop rock and synths a lot more natural, and Peart's refusal to write dumb lyrics helped too. |
I agree. In my opinion, all of Rush's more pop-rock oriented 80's albums are worth four stars at least, if not five. They were always songwriters at heart anyway, unlike other 70's prog greats who could well be classified as "composers" in the classical sense. That's really where Rush separated themselves from most of the other 70's prog bands; they were able to lose "proginess" without losing quality. |
Agreed on both posts. I've said it a thousands times, Hold Your Fire is really great. And the sprinkled tracks throughout their career that were highly accessible, were great mentions.
Fly By Night, Closer to the Heart, Spirit of Radio, Limelight, Subdivisions. etc.
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Gully Foyle
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Posted: December 27 2011 at 06:40 |
Negoba wrote:
Peter Gabriel solo, naturally. |
extremely difficult to argue with this
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A Smart Kid
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Posted: December 27 2011 at 18:52 |
Supertramp would have to be my pick hands down.
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Posted: December 29 2011 at 15:15 |
Or were they a pop/rock band who made the best PROG??? Hmmm?????
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The Quiet One
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Posted: December 29 2011 at 15:37 |
Supertramp, indeed.
Porcupine Tree does some very fine poppish stuff, heard on Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun, Deadwing, etc.
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resurrection
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Posted: December 30 2011 at 11:09 |
Clouds Watercolour Days
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Posted: December 30 2011 at 23:48 |
I think the biggies, when they wanted to, tended to make the best 'pop' in the guise of Artrock (or the other way 'round) ; Floyd, Tull, ELP, Yes
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Posted: January 03 2012 at 05:59 |
resurrection wrote:
Clouds Watercolour Days |
yep, a goodie
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Posted: January 03 2012 at 06:34 |
Earth and Fire! I've made myself a CD of all their singles and b-sides from the 1970s. They were incredible at that kind of thing.
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Posted: January 03 2012 at 21:53 |
I really like King Crimson's pop songs from their '80s albums, specifically Beat. Brian Eno's pop on Another Green World is also very nice. Peter Gabriel made some good pop music too.
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Posted: January 03 2012 at 21:56 |
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Posted: January 03 2012 at 22:16 |
ELO for sure, but these guys run a very close second:
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Posted: January 04 2012 at 08:42 |
HolyMoly wrote:
Earth and Fire! I've made myself a CD of all their singles and b-sides from the 1970s. They were incredible at that kind of thing. |
That's true, they were very good at that.
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FunkyHomoSapien
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Posted: January 04 2012 at 09:46 |
Pink Floyd are very Poppy at times
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JeanFrame
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Posted: January 04 2012 at 09:52 |
resurrection wrote:
Clouds Watercolour Days |
I see the point, Clouds could write pop songs, but never really played like a pop group, definitely one of the earliest - perhaps even THE earliest - progressive rock band. In any case, The Clouds Scrapbook is a better contender for pop songs than Watercolour Days.
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