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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 13:47
Don't know if this is legit, but:

This person clearly doesn't like prog-metal, yet keeps reviewing such releases and giving them 1 or 2 stars. Why does he keep subjecting himself to music he doesn't like??

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32415
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Truth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:32
He's rated Dream Theater as low but practically all other metal bands he's given higher. I think he just doesn't like Dream Theater.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote darkshade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 14:36
he gave 2 DT albums and 3 Fates Warning albums more than 3 stars, everything else is 1 or 2 stars
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 16:22
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Don't know if this is legit, but:

This person clearly doesn't like prog-metal, yet keeps reviewing such releases and giving them 1 or 2 stars. Why does he keep subjecting himself to music he doesn't like??

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32415

he voted a measly 1 star for DTs Black clouds and only 2 or Rush's Farewell to Kings masterwork...Angry 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 16:35
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

He's rated Dream Theater as low but practically all other metal bands he's given higher. I think he just doesn't like Dream Theater.

They are terrible reviews!
He reviewed Haken's new one terribly that did not deserve such a bashing, and he keeps mentioning reviewers opinions comparing them to inferior than his own. He uses words like Egads, and Jesus, just to vent his distaste. He hates new prog metal and gives old metal such as DTs debut 3 stars and hails it as a great listen. Then has the gall to state 'If you're prejudiced against Dream Theater prior to listening though, might want to suck it up and get over it first.' Then shows his own bias with his  1 and 2 star ratings of other DT albums!


Also he loved IQs The Wake but wroite this in review "Mercy, are we talking about the album f**king the listener? If so, I believe I have the vapors."

Not appropriate is it?

I will try to ignore him but could not resist sending him a PM about that review of new DT Angry


Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - December 26 2011 at 16:44
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2011 at 17:34
^1791 Overture's ratings appear legit to me (yes, he loathes DT but so do I Winkand to be fair he has given a couple of their albums 'pass marks')
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bonnek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2011 at 03:29

Some interesting reading, from his reviews I'd say 1791 Overture knows his stuff.
And couldn't agree more with conclusion as well as the wording of his review for DT's "Dramatic Turn of Events".



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Marty McFly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2011 at 16:55
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


Some interesting reading, from his reviews I'd say 1791 Overture knows his stuff.
And couldn't agree more with conclusion as well as the wording of his review for DT's "Dramatic Turn of Events".



Of course, DTOE has divided Progsters a lot, but isn't this a bit offensive ? Well, more than just bit, he basically blames everyone who gave something like (I suppose) 4-5 stars

Quote The bottom line is that everyone hailing this album as a "return to form" is full of it.

It's not directed at someone in particular, but to many people at once actually.

There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bonnek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2011 at 04:07

Oh yes he has to improve on his "negative review" writing. Who doesn't?
We could sure make an interesting list of insulting language from the 1 and 2 star reviews on PA. Collabs and non-collabs alike.

But I can't see anything inappropriate about his ratings. They appear genuine and consistent to me.
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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.



Wooo-hooo!!!

Genre: Eclectic Prog.
Number of reviews: 464
Average rating: 1.39




Perhaps we should implement a new list on a front page, just below the Top 100 and Prolific reviewers: list of most pathetic rating manipulators.Sax man
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aapatsos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 17:11
The user Brian Steffensen has rated Persephone's Dream here
with 1-1-2-1-2 stars for their 5 albums - potential abuse?

could someone check please, thanks!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 17:16
^ He also rated all Robert Plant's albums with 1 and 2 stars: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=20292.
Let's tell him he's an idiot or even kill him. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dtguitarfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 17:42
Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Edited by dtguitarfan - September 22 2012 at 17:52
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 17:56
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Maybe he genuinely dislikes all of those albums.  That is to say, they're all undercooked liver.  Wink
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Maybe he genuinely dislikes all of those albums.  That is to say, they're all undercooked liver.  Wink

If he listens to two albums by a band, thinks they're both 1 star, why would he torture himself and listen to 3-6 more?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ambient Hurricanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 18:05
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Maybe he genuinely dislikes all of those albums.  That is to say, they're all undercooked liver.  Wink


LOL

Just from scrolling down his reviews/ratings page, it didn't look to me like he's abusing the system, as there seems to be a pretty fair distribution; I didn't look at specific artists, but it may be that he just doesn't like them, and rates their albums accordingly.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 18:05
Too many 1s and 5s, but it looks like he's rating per his actual opinion as opposed to systematically trying to manipulate. 

I've seen much worse than this one. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ambient Hurricanes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 18:09
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Maybe he genuinely dislikes all of those albums.  That is to say, they're all undercooked liver.  Wink

If he listens to two albums by a band, thinks they're both 1 star, why would he torture himself and listen to 3-6 more?


You and I both know, Geoff, that there are some people who take a great deal of pleasure in loudly proclaiming their dislike of certain albums/artists/genres, and rate and review accordingly.  That can be annoying, but I wouldn't call it abuse of the system.

I don't really blame anyone for taking that attitude although I would prefer a more positive attitude toward the music on this forum.  I am also a very opinionated and critical person, but that doesn't come out as much in the prog forums because I happen to like almost all the music on this site.

The general discussion forums, on the other hand, are another matter entirely...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2012 at 18:13
Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464

1661 1-star ratings.

Dude, there are some artists he's given the entire catalog the same 1 or 2 star ratings for.  Inappropriate for sure.


Maybe he genuinely dislikes all of those albums.  That is to say, they're all undercooked liver.  Wink

If he listens to two albums by a band, thinks they're both 1 star, why would he torture himself and listen to 3-6 more?


I think some people actually take a historical view and like to listen to all albums, whether they personally like them or not is irrelevant.  Music is not simply entertainment to them, they are trying to be exposed to all the art/music they can be.  They are still allowed their opinion and right to rate stuff.  I don't know if that's what this guy's story is, but it's possible. 
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