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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 06:18
4.34 avrage rating
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56% 5 stars !!!!!!!!!!!
Many other very good albums, would kill for that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:05
^ Pretty much what I was just about to post. It is very well appreciated. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:46
It's extremely well appreciated. in fact, it's difficult to think of too many albums more appreciated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 11:58
Relayer is probably my least favorite Yes album from the 70's (yes, that includes Tormato).  I like Gates, but it's certainly not my favorite of their epics (Revealing Science, The Remembering, Awaken, CTTE and Endless Dream are higher on my list) and the other two songs really don't do much for me.  So it probably is underappreciated by me as it seems to be highly regarded in prog circles. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 12:00
It's very appreciated on PA as far as I can see.

I think it's pretty good. Three stars.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 12:00
Like many before me have said: it is not underappreciated; plus it is one of my favorite Yes albums. I don't have the time to write good reviews, but I would give it 5 stars myself as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:06
I love Relayer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 13:52
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Currently, it is the third most highly rated Yes album on the ProgArchives, and number 30 overall, which is no mean feat. I don't think that counts as underappreciated, although as my favorite Yes album it rates much higher to me personally.  Nor do I particularly care that much where it falls in any top list.  Those numbers just represent common denominators.  As others have said, it is not an album that one can get into easily or quickly, but it is one whose dimensions reveal themselves on repeated listens.  I suspect some detractors may not have the patience it requires to fully appreciate, but who knows?  We don't all have to 'get it' nor do we all have to enjoy the same things to the same degree.  The only thing that matters, as I frequently say, is how much you appreciate it when you listen to it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:21
I don't care about anyones ratings and if you are looking for us to tell you why you should appreciate it......then that tells me the album is too big for you.
Bottomline is you have to sit back and listen a few times and decide for yourself.
 
I appreciate everything I listen to, even if I end up not liking it, because I appreciate what the artist is trying to do for me. To me ratings don't equate to Appreciated or Underappreciated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:37
It's my fave yes album......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 15:44
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I don't care about anyones ratings and if you are looking for us to tell you why you should appreciate it......then that tells me the album is too big for you.
Bottomline is you have to sit back and listen a few times and decide for yourself.
 
I appreciate everything I listen to, even if I end up not liking it, because I appreciate what the artist is trying to do for me. To me ratings don't equate to Appreciated or Underappreciated.


Andrew is a newbe here. He doesn’t reveal his age, but I guess he’s a lot younger than you and me. He obviously loves Relayer, so it’s meaningless to say that the album’s too big for him. I loved that album at the age of 17, and I still do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:17
^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:26
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.
I find it a much better value when I buy albums that I don't already have.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:29
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.

The OP likes it but thinks most people don't so by extension he believes that to be the case generally. He thought the majority here felt the same. He was wrong obviously.


Edited by Snow Dog - December 12 2011 at 16:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 23:55
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

`Relayer' at first comes across as a metallic, noisy, tuneless, clanking mess! Repeated plays show that's it's a very different, challenging and experimental work from the band. It's even a shock how dark some the lyrics from Anderson are. It's a shame Patrick Moraz never got to record another album with the band, he played some very interesting stuff on it.

I find, much like `Topographic Oceans' that, after you've listened to the over-familiar `Fragile', `Close To The Edge', `The Yes Album' etc a hundred times, `Relayer' (and `Topographic') provides endless new and fascinating moments to discover.




agree for Relayer. Its seriously genius work. as for Topographic im gonna go listen to it one of these days (i have the cd but didnt play it)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2011 at 02:51
Relayer is another shade of Close to the Edge.   Roger Dean's use of a silver and gray monotone color palette  seems  cold, mysterious, and  dangerous when compared other Yes/Dean collaberatioons.  Relayer's cover art visually  echoes the potent sounds resonating in the  grooves of the vinyl.   Roger Dean has gone on record before claiming Relayer to be his all time favorite Yes Album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2011 at 06:43
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

My favorite Yes I think. Would be brilliant if Bruford was on it, no offense to White.


Agreed.

White made a great job on tales but fades a little bit on Relayer. To mE.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2011 at 14:57
White is a much 'harder' drummer than Bruford and that suites the tracks (especially GoD) perfectly. I just wish the sound mix was not so turgid.White's drumming gets lost in it a bit too much. The Yesshows version is better for me with a lot more clarity and you can hear how good White really was at that time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2011 at 15:19
One of my top favs and certainly not "underappreciated" in the prog circles.
As good as Bill Bruford is I do not miss him here, White did an outstanding job, and the same for Moraz.
For sure harder than other Yes great albums, it's funny Jon Anderson agreed to all that heaviness, but great anyway!
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2011 at 15:25
I don't think Relayer is underappreciated; it's just less iconic than CTTE or Fragile.  Clearly it's regarded highly, and I think it contains some fine music, on par with the two albums I just mentioned, but I think I see where you're coming from.  When one thinks of the glory days of Yes, one usually thinks of CTTE - Relayer may be equal or even superior in quality, and regarded as such, but it's just not as well-recognized by non-Yes fans.
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