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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Yes' "Relayer" underappreciated?
    Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:00
Do you think it is, cause I do. Post your thoughts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:08
It has a classic status around here and gets plenty of coverage. Personally, it's my least favorite post-Time, pre-Tormato album. Still very good though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:24
`Relayer' at first comes across as a metallic, noisy, tuneless, clanking mess! Repeated plays show that's it's a very different, challenging and experimental work from the band. It's even a shock how dark some the lyrics from Anderson are. It's a shame Patrick Moraz never got to record another album with the band, he played some very interesting stuff on it.

I find, much like `Topographic Oceans' that, after you've listened to the over-familiar `Fragile', `Close To The Edge', `The Yes Album' etc a hundred times, `Relayer' (and `Topographic') provides endless new and fascinating moments to discover.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:28
It's personally my favorite album EVER. no biggie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:29
My favorite Yes I think. Would be brilliant if Bruford was on it, no offense to White.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:36
I grew tired of Gates pretty quickly, but side 2 never ceases to amaze me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 22:53
...not to mention the brilliant cover artwork by Roger Dean!  Probably my favorite Yes album cover....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 23:13
I definitely agree! It's my favorite yes album, one of my favorite albums altogether... I have the cover art on my door.

When I first listened the Gates of Delirium, I kinda enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as I did after constant listens. At first it seems like a jumbled mess, but that's because it's a long piece. Therefore, to understand the theme and shape of the song, it needs quite a few listens. The fact is, it's not a simple piece. It's very complicated and very emotional. Once you have listened to it enough times, it can be quite magical. For me, as my favorite song, every time I listen to the Gates of Delirium it puts some sort of magical energy through me that just leaves me moved at the end. It's ever changing, there's variations in everything... I can't imagine how they could memorize a piece like that. But more than anything it's the beauty and emotion in the piece.

I love Sound Chaser and To be Over as well... they contain some beautiful music with lots of emotion as well.

I think Relayer's definitely underrated in terms of Yes - it's far more complex than Close to the Edge (and Tales from Topographic Oceans, which to me was just an attempt at making a ton of music without actually getting deep in any particular song). People should give it more chance (;


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2011 at 23:31
I don't think it is underappreciated, but in fact other albums are more appreciated than Relayer.

I, for one, list it as my third favorite Yes album, after The Yes Album (fav) and Fragile (2nd).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:10
Currently, it is the third most highly rated Yes album on the ProgArchives, and number 30 overall, which is no mean feat. I don't think that counts as underappreciated, although as my favorite Yes album it rates much higher to me personally.  Nor do I particularly care that much where it falls in any top list.  Those numbers just represent common denominators.  As others have said, it is not an album that one can get into easily or quickly, but it is one whose dimensions reveal themselves on repeated listens.  I suspect some detractors may not have the patience it requires to fully appreciate, but who knows?  We don't all have to 'get it' nor do we all have to enjoy the same things to the same degree.  The only thing that matters, as I frequently say, is how much you appreciate it when you listen to it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:39
It's one of my less favorite Yes albums, but I have no "technical" motivations. It's so. Nothing else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 00:42
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

`Relayer' at first comes across as a metallic, noisy, tuneless, clanking mess! Repeated plays show that's it's a very different, challenging and experimental work from the band. It's even a shock how dark some the lyrics from Anderson are. It's a shame Patrick Moraz never got to record another album with the band, he played some very interesting stuff on it.

I find, much like `Topographic Oceans' that, after you've listened to the over-familiar `Fragile', `Close To The Edge', `The Yes Album' etc a hundred times, `Relayer' (and `Topographic') provides endless new and fascinating moments to discover.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 01:52

Its a much more technical album and lacks the warmth of the best Yes music. GoD is pretty amazing but the side two just bores me. Too much technical rambling on Sound Chaser while To Be Over is just a pleasant track nothing earth shattering for me. Its a solid 4 star album although I would put Gates in the top 3 epics of all time (the others Suppers Ready and KE9 imo)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 02:50
Originally posted by fuyuakiworld fuyuakiworld wrote:

Do you think it is, cause I do. Post your thoughts.
 
Tell us more about your thoughts. Why do you think it is underappreciated?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 02:53
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

I don't think it is underappreciated, but in fact other albums are more appreciated than Relayer.
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And Bob, I guess he might want to say so ... and, as I've done previously, a PA newbie cannot help posting something I imagine? Wink


Edited by DamoXt7942 - December 12 2011 at 02:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:48
I think it is appreciated just fine. My favourite Yes album by a very long way, and IMO Brufford would have ruined it - Alan White's druming is perfect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:50
I might as well add also that it is my favourite Yes album and one of my favourite albums ever by anyone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:55
Admin  Ghost edit - I couldn't live with "underapriciated" in the thread title any longer. Stern Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:57
It is described in Aymeric Leroy's book Rock Progressif as a Yes masterpiece. It's my favourite Yes record with Close to the Edge.

Probably underappreciated by a more mainstream fringe of the prog audience, but as it can be quite challenging there's no surprise in here. I think it's appreciated just how it deserve to be.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Admin  Ghost edit - I couldn't live with "underapriciated" in the thread title any longer. Stern Smile

I don't blame you. It was very irksome.
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