"Occupy" Protests

The T wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: The Doctor wrote: People are not paid based on the amount of work they do in the private sector either.  I would strongly dispute that a CEO does 475 times more work than a janitor, yet that is what he often makes.  I would say, if that were the case, the janitor should probably make more than the CEO.  And the people who actually produce products (the laborers) should be the highest paid in the company. A Socialists' theory of valuation The entire system of valuation is the whole crux of the problem with socialists. There was a great article on Mises the other day regarding that. If I find it I will post the link for TheDoctor to totally ignore it.  Edit: Found one in the same spirit.

It's a complex issue that really deserves a thorough treatment. That's not to insult the article which I haven't read, but my general opinion is that some length is needed to really properly talk about it.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: The Doctor wrote: People are not paid based on the amount of work they do in the private sector either.  I would strongly dispute that a CEO does 475 times more work than a janitor, yet that is what he often makes.  I would say, if that were the case, the janitor should probably make more than the CEO.  And the people who actually produce products (the laborers) should be the highest paid in the company. A Socialists' theory of valuation

Edited by The T - November 29 2011 at 16:38

TheMasterMofo wrote: The T wrote: Epignosis wrote: Do folks think "good jobs" just happen because the government says, "HEY YOU, Yeah you, go make us some good jobs." ? Well, in a way, yes. Government jobs are usually good jobs with good benefits . So, there it is, I guess that's the liberals' dream: a society where 100% of the people work for the government! As someone who works for the state, I can't really argue here, but the problem is that taxpayers pay for people to have government jobs, so if EVERYONE worked for the government, who would be footing the bill? The government, if anything, needs to cut BACK on their jobs because usually they overpay people to do menial tasks, in addition to the nice benefits. Plus, I don't see how a senator should get paid three times more than I make as a teacher when we're supposedly both "public servants" and I have to work a lot harder than a lot of current senators do.

Obviously, you mistook my post for a serious one. 

The T wrote: Epignosis wrote: Do folks think "good jobs" just happen because the government says, "HEY YOU, Yeah you, go make us some good jobs." ? Well, in a way, yes. Government jobs are usually good jobs with good benefits . So, there it is, I guess that's the liberals' dream: a society where 100% of the people work for the government!

As someone who works for the state, I can't really argue here, but the problem is that taxpayers pay for people to have government jobs, so if EVERYONE worked for the government, who would be footing the bill?

The government, if anything, needs to cut BACK on their jobs because usually they overpay people to do menial tasks, in addition to the nice benefits. Plus, I don't see how a senator should get paid three times more than I make as a teacher when we're supposedly both "public servants" and I have to work a lot harder than a lot of current senators do.

TheMasterMofo wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: I had to whack this one. Now I'm extremely interested in seeing what used to be here...

It was an attempt at fake outrage that didn't work.  I came off as more irate than joking.

Epignosis wrote: Do folks think "good jobs" just happen because the government says, "HEY YOU, Yeah you, go make us some good jobs." ?

Well, in a way, yes. Government jobs are usually good jobs with good benefits . So, there it is, I guess that's the liberals' dream: a society where 100% of the people work for the government!

Slartibartfast wrote: I had to whack this one.

Now I'm extremely interested in seeing what used to be here...

Yeah leave it to Slarti to make it just a bit too serious..
The Beatles one is also pretty great for it's word play

akamaisondufromage wrote:

this is the best one, because of the lack of emotional pandering. 

Edited by Slartibartfast - November 23 2011 at 17:54