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Textbook
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Topic: Which Prog Band Made The Best Pop? Posted: October 31 2011 at 01:28 |
I'm not asking "most successful" as that's probably quite uncontroversially Genesis, unless we include proto-proggers partly from the pop world in the first place like The Beatles, The Who, Deep Purple etc
While many prog bands had a go at pop and some got a hit single or two, only Genesis really seemed to really crack it. But regardless of chart success, which prog acts pop attempts do you personally enjoy the most. For me it's Rush. Even in their most progressive years, there were always tracks like Something For Nothing, Closer To The Heart, Circumstances, Entre Nous, Freewill, Limelight etc around which managed to sound ready for the radio (though many of them weren't even singles) without being stupid or predictable. Perhaps because they were younger than a lot of their prog peers, they found the shift to pop rock and synths a lot more natural, and Peart's refusal to write dumb lyrics helped too. Edited by Textbook - October 31 2011 at 01:29 |
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 01:50 |
Mr Bungle on their California album gets a mention from me. It's got some superb pop on it.
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JS19
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:27 |
Dredg, if you count them as Prog. The Pariah, The Parrot and the Delusion and Catch Without Arms are stellar examples of complex pop rock.
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Atoms
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:30 |
Jethro Tull
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irrelevant
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:37 |
This. Oh and Cheer-Accident have created some of the best pop I've ever heard.
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richardh
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:39 |
Its hard to know what to define as 'pop'. For instance ELP -Lucky Man has acheived a lot of airplay on radio and I believe was released as a single in the USA although not in Europe. This also happened with From The Beginning. They also has a massive worldwide hit with Fanfare For The Common Man. Pop music??! I'm not sure but what is the definition?
If the question was which prog band made the best pop music between 1970 and 1977 then I would go for ELP. Post 1977 then Genesis.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:41 |
Do you mean full blown prog acts that make pop music (In which case, I would say some of the Porcupine Tree tracks like `The Sound Of Muzak', `Trains', `Lazarus' are first rate `pop' tracks, if someone like Coldplay released them they would make millions)?
Or do you mean `pop' bands like Tear For Fears, Mansun, etc who had prog-elements in their accessible music? :) |
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Textbook
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 02:59 |
I suppose I mean full-blown prog acts that tried their hand at pop.
Mansun a pop band? We haven't heard Six, have we? |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 03:29 |
Oh, `Six' is one of my favourite albums!!!!
I especially tracked down a vinyl copy because of that cover!!! I actually loved all of their albums, thought they were a great band! Terrific lead guitarist too. I used to have a Mansun t-shirt, but it regrettably feautured a photo of the band and it looked kind of like a `boy group' t-shirt, not cool! |
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 03:38 |
Yes for me, for the songs on 90125 and because of "Rhythm Of Love" and "Love Will Find A Way" on Big Generator and "The Calling" on Talk. But then again, in those days, they weren't a real prog band anymore.
It seems that most classic prog bands were able to write at least some sing-along-songs, like ELP with "Lucky Man", Genesis with "I Know What I Like" and Yes with "Roundabout", although... even there one could argue if they were really pop songs or just prog songs which are easy to digest. Further on: I find it fascinating that with the CD re-issues of a lot of Italian progbands of the 1970's, often one or two pop song are included as bonus tracks, quite different in sound from the progressive music on the album, but nevertheless often quite good. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 08:37 |
I haven't heard much pop from the 70s bands and I can't say I want to explore more. But I like Big Generator a lot, it's a four stars album for me (90125 much less so).
The band Kumm turned alternative, and their alternative rock (recently going in an indie-pop direction) albums are some of my favourite from the genre. Sigur Ros' last album is great. And Jonsi solo took that kind of stuff even further into indie-pop territory (and did it very well). |
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presdoug
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 11:33 |
ELP
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sleeper
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 12:48 |
Marillion have made some excellent pop songs and albums throughout their career.
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cstack3
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 12:55 |
Yes. Their single "Roundabout" was a huge radio hit in Chicago, and helped to propel the band to their place in history. "America" was another substantial hit for Yes. I won't even touch the 90125 stuff!!
Flash also did well with "Small Beginnings," which charted. Back in that era (1971-2), the AM radio was full of prog hits by Focus ("Hocus Pocus"), ELP ("From the Beginning") and a few others. Sadly, Fripp never found the path to a hit single with any of his KC versions.
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lucas
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 17:46 |
There are a lot of prog or prog-related bands who can craft nice pop songs :
Talk Talk
Kevin Gilbert
Tony Banks
Sagrado Coraçao da Terra
King Crimson (during the eighties)
Saga
IQ (the Menel era)
It Bites
The Beatles (hehe !)
Manfred Mann's Earthband
Roxy Music
Supertramp
10CC
Journey (they began as a prog rock band)
Ambrosia
Peter Gabriel (if we assume that he is a prog rock artist)
Steely Dan
IONA
Renaissance
October Project
Tangerine Dream ('Le Parc' comes to mind)
Mike Oldfield (especially when Maggie Reilly lends her voice)
Kraftwerk (electronic pop !)
Queen
Pavlov's Dog
Camel (listen to 'dust and 'dreams' and 'breathless')
Pink Floyd
The Flower Kings
Caravan
Steve Thorne
Orphan Project
Enchant
Alan Parsons Project
Procol Harum
Queensrÿche
Fates Warning (listen to 'parallels')
Xen (the guys from Enchant in a more poppy mood)
Echolyn
Kansas (they had some nice power pop tunes in the eighties)
Klaatu
Skaldowie (the whole 'ty' and 'wszystkim zakochanym')
Niemen (his early works)
Le Orme
The Moody Blues
etc.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: October 31 2011 at 17:48 |
Art Bears
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richardh
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 02:44 |
that one screams out!! If I had thought a bit longer then that would have been my choice
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Textbook
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 02:47 |
Can't believe I forgot The Moody Blues.
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JS19
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 03:30 |
Sugar Mice is probably the best pop song of the 80s |
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Atoms
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Posted: November 01 2011 at 04:04 |
Something that just crossed my mind, am I the only one who can enjoy Merci (Magma) on these boards?
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