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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17191 |
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Our friend David wrote a nice RPI review that I wanted to acknowledge. Bravo dude!
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Io Sono Nato Libero Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
Atavachron
![]() I don't much buy into Prog influences here-- Banco was more in line with a grand Italian tradition of musical identity and innovation, and don't sound much at all like ELP or Tull or anyone else ascribed to them. The Bros. Nocenzi are also another example of how well two keyboards can be utilized, and the advantages of a pair who turned any sibling rivalries into a perfectly attuned unit. Marcello Todaro's guitars blend when required and shine when needed, Calderoni/D'Angelo sound as if they were joined at birth, and Francesco Di Giacomo finishes the Nocenzi's pieces with pining emotion and sincerity, turning them into proper songs. The material here, as 'Canto Nomade per un Prigioniero Politico', is so carefully conceived and finished that it could be mistaken, I suppose, for something it was never intended to be: like Muzak. Nothing new for Prog of course, the eternally misidentified, misunderstood and misrepresented genre. Jazz abounds everywhere on the record but always quite deliberate and at the service of the music. Stunning Mediterranean sunsets, brief deviations, and flavors of the East permeate regularly. 'Non mi Rompete' takes us on a ride down the Grand Canal past the Palazzo Cavalli-Franchetti, 'La Citta Sottile' is a haunting beauty with droning jazz and a touch of darkness, and 10-minute 'Dopo..Niente e Piu lo Stesso' is a standout, maybe the highlight, and will please most proggies. In all honesty I probably would not have liked this album even just ten years ago, and there is no denying its polished, pristine surface and Di Giacomo's bleeding-heart singing is not for everyone. Or even for a significant percentage of music listener. Heck I'd be surprised if the average Prog fan likes Banco. But that doesn't mean this isn't one of the finest recordings ever achieved by a rock band. Elegant, clean, and filled with marvelous stuff. What more could one want? |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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seventhsojourn ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006 |
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Yes, that is an uncommonly good review.
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^ Indeed it is.
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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What a silence these days ! Let's get out of our confortable graves with a Mario Bava's horror movie. Music : LIBRA. (1977)
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Online Points: 13946 |
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I literally got this cd in the mail today and i'm really looking forward to it.I heard one track off of a sampler and was impressed enough to order it. Listening right now to A PIEDI NUDI's "Eclissi".Damn this is heavy ! I completely forgot how hard this rocked.I enjoy the Italian vocals too.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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The listenning of soundtrack music is very strange. Most of the times you haven't seen the film and you have to build your own images with sounds. I was bored with all kinds of music when I started to listen to Ost. I found my happiness in italian soundtracks. Morricone, Cipriani, Nicolai, Migliardi, Micalizzi, Ortolani, Trovajoli, Goblin, Rota ...etc, made me loved RPI. Maybe because of the language. There is a great influence between Ost and RPI. For example, the choruses in the beginning of Ys are pure Morricone. Someday I will write a list of the essential ones.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65527 |
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thanks you guys
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Online Points: 13946 |
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Pierre it is such a pleasure to read your thoughts.I always read your posts with interest.Thanks !
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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In spite of my poor vocabulary !!! It is a great compliment. Thank you
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Todd ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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Ditto! And John, same goes for you. I love hearing what you both are listening to. (Although, John, I still can't really get into the metal stuff.
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8711 |
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I love the soundtrack Osanna did for the film Milano Calibro 9
Never heard the soundtrack to Schock, but i love Libra, so will have to remedy that situation! |
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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The Osanna's soundtrack is great too, Doug, more psyche and rough than the Libra's one that uses funk, jazz and electronic.
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Online Points: 13946 |
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I must admit this is a whole new world for me when you start talking Italian soundtracks. I mean i'm familiar with a few but i'm going to have to check out some of these that Pierre and others have mentioned.Thanks. And thankyou Todd as usual for the nice words, and hey you might not be into Metal but you leave me in the dust when it comes to RPI.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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Here are some Morricone’s
stuffs. Some examples among many. I have chosen albums (and specific editions)
with not too much repetitions of the different themes. It’s a problem with soundtrack music.
Sometimes too much repetitions kill the music in you. These ones look like
albums (about 26 to 40 minutes). Enjoy ! GIU LA TESTA (The maestro’s
masterpiece. Edizione speciale 35 anniversario 2 CD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3VKYYHA7-w&feature=fvst
LE CLAN DES SICILIENS (THE
SICILIAN CLAN Cam’s edition) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpj59hICwT4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUFJfco3vBY&feature=fvwrel LA BANDA J & S (2008 Digitmovies) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DOomOWwgDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-18dk__q_QA&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ2RLn0KThg&feature=related Ps : You
can also start with the fantastic compilation Mondo Morricone Vol 1 |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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^I love Morricone, Pierre.
My father has been working with movies and theater since the end of the 50s(retired now since he´s almost 300...), and he´s always told me stories about the industry. Actors, scripts, music, lighting, directors and whatnot. I remember watching those old spaghetti westerns back when I was a mere toddler, and it was the music that drew me in - still does. Morricone not only revitalized the movie soundtrack, but he also incorporated the modern orchestra into the scene - using a wide variety of instruments to create atmospheres and suspense. Just like RPI - he also fused the melody and footwork of his nation´s classical composers, but he added a lot of folk elements to the mix with tiny flutes, guitars and mandolins. In that aspect, I think he inadvertently created another dimension to these Sergio Leone flicks. The music suddenly became a story line in itself, not that this hadn´t been done before, but personally I think a lot of the soundtrack music prior to Morricone was just a mirror effect of what was happening on screen - telling you how to feel in the given moment. Who can forget the ending of Ben Hur or Gone with the wind? Those movies tell you how to feel, whereas Morricone was much more understated IMO. Now calling him understated almost sounds like a joke - I know, but when you look at the mechanics of the scenes, his music accompanies, then things aren´t that clear cut. Of course there are scenes where he deliberately showers "the bad and evil" in frightening notes - that indicates their true nature, but I always thought he had a playful twist to it. Like Darth Vader in all of his frightening presence, but then wearing a pink skirt... There´s always something beneath the obvious textures with Morricone, and to me that is what makes him one of the greatest music composers inside the film industry. Edited by Guldbamsen - October 15 2011 at 05:37 |
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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Great post ! Thanks very much
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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![]() To continue with the crossover RPI / Soundtrack, a very nice and understated Goblin from 1977. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Thanks Pierre ![]() I´m blown away by just how much new stuff you´re currently injecting into this thread, and I´m loving it ![]() I guess it must be contagious...: |
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