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Posted: August 20 2011 at 20:49
Another vote for The Flower Kings here. No real surprise as they have a decent following here on the Prog Archives, but in my opinion they have moments that emulate Yes, but they turn those moments into their own and take them in a new direction.
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 21:05
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
yanch wrote:
As a long time Yes fan too, I've noticed that there are far, far fewer bands that have sounds in the Yes vein as opposed to bands who have emulated the classic Genesis style. A tribute I think to how talented Yes were at their peak.
A band has fewer clones or followers not because more talented, but because they caused a lesser impact.
I'm sure that Yes is among the most respected bands in UK and USA, but in other countries Genesis is far more accepted, and don't tell me that songs like Fountain of Salmacis, Supper's Ready ( with so many different changes and moods), Can Utility and the Coastliners ,etc are easier music.
In Italy and Sweden for example, Genesis had far more impact, in Germany and Japan, ELP had more followers because they caused a greater impact.
Now Yes had hundreds of followers and clones like
Starcastle,
Abbhama (Indonesia),
Druid,
Welcome (Switzerland),
Atlantide (France)
Saens (France)
Glass Hammer
Flower Kings
Lift (USA)
Cathedral
Cherry Five
Exodus (Known as the Polish Yes)
Blue Shift
Flash
Relayer
Banzai
Legacy
Alaska
Mutantes
Big Picture
Just to mention a few
Iván
Don't get me wrong. I in no way am suggesting that classic Genesis wasn't great music or difficult-I am a big fan of theirs.
As to your list, I agree with some, but IMHO few of them are much more than clones. What I like about Flower Kings and Magenta is that they are very original, but are clearly influenced and inspired by Yes and I think are far better than most others because they aren't trying to sound like Yes.
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Posted: August 20 2011 at 23:04
Genesis's SOUND is not so hard to emulate, just a few keyboard arpeggios and you're there, kind of. To truly emulate the very substance of their music is hard. I have personally NEVER heard the spirit of Genesis or Yes's music truly encapsulated in a more contemporary prog rock band's work, save Kevin Gilbert's Shaming the True album and even that is a simplified approach to Genesis.
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Posted: August 21 2011 at 00:14
I don't think there's a point looking for the true successor of Yes, or the true successor of anyone to be honest. Each band has its own thing, and if it truly doesn't- then I don't really think they should be listened to at all. But people judge different bands as clones or not clones.
Don't look for successor, look for innovator (ugh that felt cheesy to say...)
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Posted: August 21 2011 at 00:19
Slartibartfast wrote:
roberto59 wrote:
I have been a long time YES fan and as many others I am highly disappointed by the musical course the band has taken after splitting from Jon and Rick.
Doesn't sound that radically different to me.
Sorry, friend, but I cannot agree less! Musically, the newest Yes is fair to decent, although Downes is perhaps the least competent of the long history of Yes keyboardists. Benoit David is quite decent on Fly From Here.
However, I find the latest lyrics to be insipid beyond my ability to tolerate! Believe me, I have tried repeatedly!!
Example: The Revealing Science of God
Dawn of light lying between a silence and sold sources,
Chased amid fusions of wonder, in moments hardly seen forgotten,
Coloured in pastures of chance dancing leaves cast spells of
challenge,
Amused but real in thought, we fled from the sea whole.
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Posted: August 21 2011 at 04:05
I'd add to the recommendations for the Flower Kings. As a primer you could do far worse than invest in their live album 'Meet the Flower Kings' which has some of their best and most epic songs on it.
Also Transatlantic SMTPe if only for All of the Above - a very Yes-like epic .
Babylon´s self titled from 78 is the best "reincarnation" of the Yes sound to my ears. Otherwise you should probably check out the new Wobbler album Rites at Dawn, which has a very strong Yes parallel.
That's a good record, but can a band that had made one album could be consider the true successor of YES? Is this band could have made another series of quality albums of the nature of all the best Yes albums? Maybe we could have name this band the temporary successor of Yes. Also i will have to listen to that album again, because it seems to me that they have also a Genesis's influence.
first of all thnk you very much: I am surprised by the amount of replies and the explainations given together with the comments: I am excited to think how much good music I may enjoy following your suggestions!
A few words of clarification: of course I was referring to the "Yes- spirit" (if this does mean something to you) of their golden period in order to look for successors. However I am quite inclined to like music including vocal harmonies and choral parts and I am personally fond of Jon Anderson's voice (but this is another story adn should not limitate the suggestions).
Someone mentioned that it would make more sense to look for innovators than for "reincarnations" and I agree in general, although I am quite convinced tha musically the 70's prog is still unequalled. For instance I like very much Dream Theatre, but I don't have the same "thrill" I still have when I listen to the classic Yes: am I getting too old?
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Posted: August 21 2011 at 13:37
Sorry, I've been following this thread and now I just have to butt in, enough is enough.
The Flower Kings are nothing like Yes AT ALL.
I feel very strongly that the TFK Appreciation Society is using this opportunity to plug their favourite band for all it's worth, regardless of content.
Yes is (OK, was) a most fantastic band that not only produced wonderfully complex and at the same time melodic and (especially) rocking music, whereas no song, and i MEAN no song at all by TFK has any rocking quality or energy that could even remotely equal it.
I don't doubt they're a fantastic band in their own right (already trying to rebuild bridges here), but their music is geared much more toward improvisation (which Yes never did) and endless noodling solos (which Yes never did either). Sure, some similarities are there, but only to Yes' quieter moments. Yes mainly used them as a bridge toward their next explosion of energy, but TFK seem endlessly stuck in these bridge sequences. Adfditionally I defy anyone to immediately identify any TFK song, after a short while they all sound the same. Yes' songs are immediately identifiable. Believe me, after all the hype on the appropriate forum threads I've tried to seriously get into them, but it's not long before terrible boredom sets in.
If you like that sort of thing, fine. I can see the quality, although I have to be in the mood for it, but as a recommendation for someone looking for a new Yes? No way!
As for recommendations: I'd probably have to go along with early Starcastle and Yezda Urfa, although both long defunct. Both these bands don't offer any continuation of the Yes style, but I consider them quite good copies. As for anyone carrying the flag to new horizons: I don't believe there is anyone.
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Posted: August 21 2011 at 13:45
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
yanch wrote:
As a long time Yes fan too, I've noticed that there are far, far fewer bands that have sounds in the Yes vein as opposed to bands who have emulated the classic Genesis style. A tribute I think to how talented Yes were at their peak.
A band has fewer clones or followers not because more talented, but because they caused a lesser impact.
I'm sure that Yes is among the most respected bands in UK and USA, but in other countries Genesis is far more accepted, and don't tell me that songs like Fountain of Salmacis, Supper's Ready ( with so many different changes and moods), Can Utility and the Coastliners ,etc are easier music.
In Italy and Sweden for example, Genesis had far more impact, in Germany and Japan, ELP had more followers because they caused a greater impact.
Now Yes had hundreds of followers and clones like
Starcastle,
Abbhama (Indonesia),
Druid,
Welcome (Switzerland),
Atlantide (France)
Saens (France)
Glass Hammer
Flower Kings
Lift (USA)
Cathedral
Cherry Five
Exodus (Known as the Polish Yes)
Blue Shift
Flash
Relayer
Banzai
Legacy
Alaska
Mutantes
Big Picture
Just to mention a few
Iván
Do you really wanna go there Iván? I mean, really man . . . .
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