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Points: 1584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 00:52
Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

 
 
Nowadays there is very little in my collection that isn't here. Most bands like the ones you mention are only here because a lot of people like them. If Queen or LZ had never been that popular then they wouldn't be here imo.

I agree, but that is one of the purposes of prog-related.  Bands who have greatly influenced prog artists.
 
I look forward (do I?) to Dylans inclusion.

I think that there would be mutiny if he was included LOL
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 04:44
Dylan was suggested already, the answer was "nay".
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Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

 
 
Nowadays there is very little in my collection that isn't here. Most bands like the ones you mention are only here because a lot of people like them. If Queen or LZ had never been that popular then they wouldn't be here imo.

I agree, but that is one of the purposes of prog-related.  Bands who have greatly influenced prog artists.
 
I look forward (do I?) to Dylans inclusion.

I think that there would be mutiny if he was included LOL
 
The team obviously realise there's a problem when inclusions are on hold and they declare they won't remove an  Artist once included (the implication being that some acts shouldn't really be here). Some accuse others of entertaining too narrow an idea of what progressive means. I know there are many here see who 'prog' as a particular style of music, born in a particular era - they don't actually mean progressive at all. Many prog acts are actually regressive. Dylan in the mid 60's was wholly progressive, but obviously not 'prog'. See what a mess it can all become.
 
Anyway like I said, boot all the non-'prog' stuff then add certain albums - you know it makes sense.
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^^^  That is more to do with the misleading nature of the label.  Progressive is just too qualitative a word to give the right impression about the music it refers to. I think art rock is a much better word...of course, it is much wider in its scope but I don't really see the problem with that. I don't see why Gentle Giant and Queen cannot both be on the same database, one being more complex and sophisticated than the other doesn't necessarily make it a wholly different type of music.  But we are not dealing in semantics here but realities.  The reality is that the label progressive has stuck and been widely misused and it's here to stay, for better or worse.  
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Dylan was suggested already, the answer was "nay".
 
I'll check that out, if it's still available.
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Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Dylan was suggested already, the answer was "nay".
 
I'll check that out, if it's still available.
 
As I suspected, given the Artists already included, the naysayers utterly failed to give compelling reasons for Dylans exclusion.
 
So it's a legacy thing,  mistakes that the team won't erase but don't wish to compound.
 
Anyway. Thanks for the replies.


Edited by KarmaMan - July 09 2011 at 08:05
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Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Dylan was suggested already, the answer was "nay".
 
I'll check that out, if it's still available.
 
As I suspected, given the Artists already included, the naysayers utterly failed to give compelling reasons for Dylans exclusion.
 
So it's a legacy thing,  mistakes that the team won't erase but don't wish to compound.
 
Anyway. Thanks for the replies.



I'm interested to hear what reasons you see for including Bob, yourself. And I thought Ivan had some good points, so 'utterly failed' might be a bit much.
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2011 at 14:48
Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by KarmaMan KarmaMan wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Dylan was suggested already, the answer was "nay".
 
I'll check that out, if it's still available.
 
As I suspected, given the Artists already included, the naysayers utterly failed to give compelling reasons for Dylans exclusion.
 
So it's a legacy thing,  mistakes that the team won't erase but don't wish to compound.
 
Anyway. Thanks for the replies.
Dylan a nay?  After his obvious influence on Steve Howe's vocals???
 
 
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Points: 21795 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2011 at 15:11
I started the Dylan suggestion and while I still consider the meat of his work proto-prog I can understand his exclusion from the site. He undoubtedly influenced the prog rock scene but his influence is so deep it'd be like including classical composers as well.
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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

90% of electronic-prog.



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