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StrengthandWisdom
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Topic: Who are some of the best vocalists in prog? Posted: April 08 2011 at 18:39 |
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I want singers who've had at least some degree of vocal training, and don't sing with a glottal voice.
Who are some of your favorites? Which bands have really good vocalists? I like Neal Morse and Steven Wilson's voice. |
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Dellinger
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 21:25 | ||||
From the more famous bands that I know, I go for John Anderson, Annie Haslam, and Freddy Mercury... and then many of the female fronted metal bands too. Very special mention and better than most, are italian singers Francesco di Giancomo (from Banco del Mutuo Socorso), and Jimmy Spitaleri from Metamorfosi.
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 21:34 | ||||
Geoff Tate. No doubt, he has an amazing voice. Like Dellinger said above, Freddie Mercury (probably the best rock vocalist of all time) and Jon Anderson.
Cedric Bixler-Zavala of TMV can wail pretty well. Edit: oops. Fixed it! Edited by Mushroom Sword - April 10 2011 at 00:48 |
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Harry Hood
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 22:43 | ||||
As far as range and technical prowess go: Peter Hammill Steve Walsh (in his younger days) Dan Swano Fish (in his younger days) Ross Jennings (lesser known, he's in a band called Haken and has an incredibly diverse range) Then theres the singers who aren't as technically gifted but can still belt out some tunes with some real intensity: Fish (in more recent years) Steve Hogarth Steve Walsh (more recently)' Hasse Froberg Roine Stolt Nad Sylvan Rob Sowden Peter Nichols Chuck Schuldiner In many ways I actually prefer the latter singers to the former.
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 08 2011 at 23:31 | ||||
I endorse the suggestions of Haslam, Gildenlow and Walsh. Also, doesn't really have a huge range but a very pleasant voice: Richard Sinclair. Phil Collins in the four man Genesis days too, especially the song Ripples. Not particularly trained, these last two but given that you mentioned Morse and Wilson, I am not sure that is exactly what you're looking for. Would also suggest The Gathering's singer Anneke van Giersbergen, especially the album How to Measure A Planet.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 00:11 | ||||
Glad somebody said it
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richardh
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 01:47 | ||||
Always loved Bryan Ferry's strange 'wobbly' voice.
On an emotional level Pete Nicholls (IQ) does it for me. I also like Matt Bellamy for sheer intensity (check out Sing For Absolution)
Technically the best imo:
Chris Thompson
Bruce Dickinson
The worst:
The guy from Eloy although I love the band
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SimZeppelin
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 03:13 | ||||
Personal favourites of mine are Peter Nicholls (IQ), Rikard Sjoblom (Beardfish) and Derek Shulman (Gentle Giant).
Then of course there are the all-time prog greats like Gabriel, Mercury, anderson and Geddy Lee. Although Andy Tillison's voice has never been great, I always appreciated that his songs were very personal, so I guess good vocals aren't always so important |
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 03:36 | ||||
Omar is the Voltas guitar player. Cedric is the singer. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 03:48 | ||||
How can a screamer be technically the best?
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martinprog77
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 03:55 | ||||
Patrik Lundström from ritual and kaipa has an amazing voice
Edited by martinprog77 - April 09 2011 at 03:55 |
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:36 | ||||
While I agree that Bruce is not technically the best, there's much more to his singing than just screaming. He used to sing at the top of a tenor's range all the time in the 80s so that is very demanding. Sure, we have so very many of those metal sirens by now but it's still not for everyone. And not just the fact that he hits those notes, he belts them powerfully. And he sings in tune all the time, so it's not screaming in the Tom Araya-sense at all. Lacked adaptability and favoured an overwrought style of emoting but that's a different story.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:41 | ||||
I meant shouter rather than screamer. My mistake. He shouts.
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:45 | ||||
Well, maybe my objections come across as semantic, but Bruce is simply belting hard at high pitch. It's not shouting because he's very much in tune. The last lines of Hallowed Be Thy Name, for example, are SUNG. With a lot of power and fury, yes, but it's still singing. I would not call it shouting or screaming because trying to shout out those notes like that day in day out in concert can wreck the singer's voice. Bruce was absolutely in control and knew what he was doing.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:47 | ||||
Lets get this clear...to me he is a shouter. Nothing you say will sway that opinion.
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:52 | ||||
Fine, but I raised the objection only because you are questioning another's assessment of Bruce's technical abilities based on what appear to be somewhat inaccurate observations. You are free to call him what you like, but factually, Bruce is a singer, he's not a typical thrash metal shouter sort at all.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 04:55 | ||||
He shouts. Belting a song throughout is shouting. And of course factually he is a singer. So is mark Knoppfler factually a singer even though he talks. he's a talker. Don't pull this my opinion are true nonsense.
Edited by Snow Dog - April 09 2011 at 04:57 |
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rogerthat
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 05:00 | ||||
Wrong. Belting is simply maintaining chest resonance even at pitches where you'd normally be required to move to head. Sounds of the Sea chorus is as much belted as Hallowed...., just used for different purposes.
I really haven't heard enough Dire Straits to relate to that analogy but if your point is simply that any vocalist is a singer, that's not what I was saying at all. A vocalist projecting tuneful melodies is a singer. Bruce definitely meets that criterion, whether he sings gently or at the top of his voice is irrelevant. If your point was that he cannot emote over gentle or sparse settings, many technically accomplished singers don't fare very well at that either so diversity or adaptability has nothing to do with technical skill.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 05:04 | ||||
You're wrong ( to use your term)
He shouts. he shouts in tune. But he shouts. Having said that, I love Iron Maiden and Bruce.( just wish he wouldn't shout so much) |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: April 09 2011 at 05:08 | ||||
Even singers WITH training use "glottal voice" (I presume you mean "head voice"); you can't reach certain high notes without using head voice. If you don't believe me read the wikipedia entry about vocal resonation: http://vocal resonation Vocal training only teaches you how to switch between them effortlessly and to support the sung note with the diaphragm. Edited by BaldFriede - April 09 2011 at 05:12 |
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