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Poll Question: Wich is your favorite era of classical music?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 15:03
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I don't really have a favorite era; there is good music from all eras. Johann Sebastian Bach is my favorite composer, and I also very much like the music of Barbara Strozzi who is sadly way too little known; she deserves a lot more attention. But that does not make the Baroque my favorite era.
for those to whom the name Barbara Strozzi means nothing, listen to these examples:


her melody lines were extraordinary and ahead of her time

 
a pupil of Monteverdi. The problem is that very little records of her work are published. I bought a collection of madrigals by Strozzi on the excellent label Ambronay (it contains thought 2 madrigals by Monteverdi, and one by d'India), but it's probably the only record of music by Strozzi I could ever find in a music store.
 
And to answer the opener of the post, I will say that Baroque is easily my favorite era. I can't think of a single disappointing artist in this era : Bach, Schütz, Muffat, Pergolese, Vivaldi, Marais, Ste-Colombe, Charpentier, Couperin, Lully, Albinoni, Purcell, Corelli, Delalande, Boismortier, Dieupart, Heandel, Corette, Biber, Scarlatti, Telemann, Zelenka, Rameau, onteverdi, Schein, Albert, Froberger, Buxtehude, Eyck, Carissimi, Pekiel, Zielenski.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 16:14
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I don't really have a favorite era; there is good music from all eras. Johann Sebastian Bach is my favorite composer, and I also very much like the music of Barbara Strozzi who is sadly way too little known; she deserves a lot more attention. But that does not make the Baroque my favorite era.
for those to whom the name Barbara Strozzi means nothing, listen to these examples:

her melody lines were extraordinary and ahead of her time

 
a pupil of Monteverdi. The problem is that very little records of her work are published. I bought a collection of madrigals by Strozzi on the excellent label Ambronay (it contains thought 2 madrigals by Monteverdi, and one by d'India), but it's probably the only record of music by Strozzi I could ever find in a music store. [

actually not. she was a student of Francesco Cavalli, but he was a student of Claudio Monteverdi


Edited by BaldJean - March 03 2011 at 16:15


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2011 at 18:15
To call any period of classical "the best" is ignorant, considering two things: a) every period was developed by the previous periods b) every period has something different to offer, e.g Renaissance - modal harmony and organum, Baroque - contrapuntalism and mathematical approach, classical - sonata form and experimental textures, romantic - exploration of harmony and bombast, 20th century - all the isms (nationalism, serrealism, minimalism, impressionism) and on a whole a massive array of combinations of different periods and cultures (also the disintigration of tonality in serrealism...

It would be pretty ignorant to call any one of them the "best". However, my favourite, purely because I personally get more enjoyment out of it, is 20th century music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2011 at 06:55
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yes, it should be understood "best for you", or "your favourite". There is indeed no such thing as best era.
 
Nationalism appeared in the romantic era, with references to the local folklore (Chopin's mazurkas, Liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, Wagner's operas, Smetana's symphonic poems).
 
Sonata was already developed in the Baroque era, with "sonades en trio" in France (François Couperin) and the famous Scarlatti's sonatas for keyboard. Also it is worth mentioning the apparition of concerti (Vivaldi, Corelli, Albinoni).
 
Classical era saw the development of symphonies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2011 at 09:37
The period when Glass and de Machaut played cards together.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2011 at 21:57
Romantic era is all about individual expression, which makes it the earliest prototype of progressive metal.Clap

Mahler is Rush! Chopin is Riverside! Liszt is Arcturus!

Technical death metal? No, let's listen to Brahms!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2011 at 11:24
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

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yes, it should be understood "best for you", or "your favourite". There is indeed no such thing as best era.
 
Nationalism appeared in the romantic era, with references to the local folklore (Chopin's mazurkas, Liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, Wagner's operas, Smetana's symphonic poems).
 
Sonata was already developed in the Baroque era, with "sonades en trio" in France (François Couperin) and the famous Scarlatti's sonatas for keyboard. Also it is worth mentioning the apparition of concerti (Vivaldi, Corelli, Albinoni).
 
Classical era saw the development of symphonies.


You are right in some ways, not so much in others. Indeed, in the Baroque era, there were pieces called "Sonatas" (which is Italian for "to play" correct me if I'm wrong). They were on of the two categories in small pieces of music, the other being "Cantatas", meaning "to sing". However, none of these - and I can say this in confidence - were in Sonata Form.

Sonata Form was introduced in the Classical era by Haydn, and boiled down to its simplest explanation, is as follows:

Exposition (introduction of all themes)
Development (twists and variations that build on the themes)
Recapitulation (re-introduction of the themes)

Which all symphonies are based around, strictly or loosely.

As I said in my original comment, Sonata Form was conceived in the Classcal era, not the term Sonata. A Baroque Sonata and a Classical Sonata are worlds apart.

Also, Brahms's Hungarian Dances, Chopin's Mazurkas etc... are the early foundations of Nationalism, however the actual subgenre itself began in the 20th century. These kind of Romantic Nationalist pieces are more Proto-Nationalism than anything... It would be a bit like saying that Jazz first started as soon as quartal harmony was discovered.

Quote Technical death metal? No, let's listen to Brahms!


You'll probably find that to be more Prokofiev
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2011 at 17:42
My favourite era is the early 20th century (Stravinsky, Prokofjev, Janacek, Kodaly, Gershwin, Martinu, Bartok) a hair over Baroque (Bach, Telemann, Händel, Vivaldi, Albinoni) and Renaissance (Palestrina, Byrd, di Lasso, Monteverdi).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 12:40
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

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yes, it should be understood "best for you", or "your favourite". There is indeed no such thing as best era.
 
Nationalism appeared in the romantic era, with references to the local folklore (Chopin's mazurkas, Liszt's hungarian rhapsodies, Wagner's operas, Smetana's symphonic poems).
 
Sonata was already developed in the Baroque era, with "sonades en trio" in France (François Couperin) and the famous Scarlatti's sonatas for keyboard. Also it is worth mentioning the apparition of concerti (Vivaldi, Corelli, Albinoni).
 
Classical era saw the development of symphonies.


You are right in some ways, not so much in others. Indeed, in the Baroque era, there were pieces called "Sonatas" (which is Italian for "to play" correct me if I'm wrong). They were on of the two categories in small pieces of music, the other being "Cantatas", meaning "to sing". However, none of these - and I can say this in confidence - were in Sonata Form.

Sonata Form was introduced in the Classical era by Haydn, and boiled down to its simplest explanation, is as follows:

Exposition (introduction of all themes)
Development (twists and variations that build on the themes)
Recapitulation (re-introduction of the themes)

Which all symphonies are based around, strictly or loosely.

As I said in my original comment, Sonata Form was conceived in the Classcal era, not the term Sonata. A Baroque Sonata and a Classical Sonata are worlds apart.

Also, Brahms's Hungarian Dances, Chopin's Mazurkas etc... are the early foundations of Nationalism, however the actual subgenre itself began in the 20th century. These kind of Romantic Nationalist pieces are more Proto-Nationalism than anything... It would be a bit like saying that Jazz first started as soon as quartal harmony was discovered.

 
ok, thank you for this explanation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 13:48
Hmmmm I didn't see this thread before?

20th Century >>> Baroque > 21st Century > Romantic > Medieval > Classical

I don't listen to enough Renaissance to say really. From what I've heard, I'm not a huge fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 14:17
My vote has put Romantic period in the lead. Although there are no losers with sublime music in each era.
I thought I'd put in a plug for an overlooked genius of the period: Carl Maria von Weber. Check him out!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 16:14
Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

My vote has put Romantic period in the lead. Although there are no losers with sublime music in each era.
I thought I'd put in a plug for an overlooked genius of the period: Carl Maria von Weber. Check him out!
I love Weber's music, especially the piano concertos and solo piano music and overtures.
       Solo piano with Hans Kann, piano concertos with Peter Rosel or Roland Keller, and the overtures either with Karajan or Roy Goodman
          Weber was related to Mozart and was Berlioz's early musical hero
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 19:17
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Renaissance and earlier music tends to get old quickly... 


so i guess you're not the one who voted Medieval era? LOL

on topic, i have trouble choosing. My knowledge with classical is limited, in that, i have stuff by various composers from all eras (except medieval). I could tell you who my favorite composers are, but eras? nah i just dont know enough.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 17:21
That's where Wikipedia gets usefull. You can know te period of you're favorite composers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2011 at 17:53
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

That's where Wikipedia gets usefull. You can know te period of you're favorite composers.
Gah!  I am not anyone's favourite composer. YOUR favourite.
 
Anyway - 20th Century followed by Contemporary.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 07:42
No one on the 21st Century? I tought it was rather popular among some proggies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 07:52
Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

No one on the 21st Century? I tought it was rather popular among some proggies.
There is such a crossover from Contempory to 21st Century (and to some extent 20th Century) you could consider all three to be a split vote. Those composers that are working in the 21st century (Glass, Ligeti, Tavner, Nyman, Górecki  etc etc) have feet in many "camps";.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2011 at 08:00
Voted for 20th Century principally through familarity with Stravinsky, Copland, Janacek, Ginastera,  Bartok etc

Ashamed to say that although I love many pieces by Liszt, Bach, Handel, Delius, Mussorgsky, Ravel etc I don't know for the life of me which composers belong to which era Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 14:40
Come on guys, Ludwig and Wolfgang? I know, everything is subjective...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 20:34
Whichever era you plug Debussy in.  He was Medieval, right? Tongue  I don't know if they are generally accepted as classical but I really like Reich and Glass.  Hackett's done some good stuff, more will come to mind.  Rypdal... I'll cast the first vote for 21st.
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