The Motorsport Thread 2011

Wutevs man, I'm letting it go because I don't care for a debate right now.

Also I assume you know that what you said can be said of most drivers.
Can only drive outside your cars ability so much, regardless of talent.

Exceptions being Schumi, Senna and probably a few others that were just inhuman.
Speaking of Schumi that should be interesting. Again we get no F1 news here so I havn't a clue if the car is any better.

But I have to assume he'll at least have a better season now that he's back in the groove. See if he can get some podiums and even any wins. Highly doubtful he's any threat for the title.

Agreed Sleeper.

I know Tilke has taken a lot of flak, but I have to admit I really like some of his tracks.
Some, however, are terrible.
I HATE that Abu Dhabi track. So much. The worst by far, I agree that it wouldn't be missed at all!

Also I'm a bit peeved about the number of street circuits that have come up. I LOVE street circuits but I don't want too many, kind of kills it IMO. I would like to keep it at 2 or 3 at most.

Oh and James, as you said he's young. And maybe it's an American thing but I am quite used to judging athletes on skill and not personality. In fact you have to ignore that part mostly. Maybe because so many here are just terrible people
In terms of skill I think Vettel is quite up there, and has shown it from the start.


Edited by JJLehto - February 23 2011 at 17:32

James wrote: I just don't like Vettel's terrible driving skills.  He took out Webber last year in that disastrous overtaking manoeuvre.  I realise he's still somewhat of a Rookie but he's shown that he has a bit of a temperament. This is why I like Button and Kubica.  They don't really complain much.  Button does complain a bit but it's usually justified.

They're also two of the fairest wheel to wheel racers out there. I cant help feel that after the Red Bull crash in Turkey last year, Lewis and Jenson showed them how its really done. Vettel's always had really big question marks over his ability to race wheel to wheel at any level, Turkey and Belgium last year showed they are still there.

Also I see after some talks there is finally an Indian GP.


There's always been Brazil but now China, India. All we need is a Russian GP and they BRIC countries are all good
Not to mention the expansion into growing Asian countries and powerhourses like Malaysia, Singapore, Abu Dhabi, Bahrain.
Always though of F1 as international but never realized how European based it was until recently.

Really embracing globalization now!

JJLehto wrote: JJ Lehto may return to my avy soon, and I find them adorable in an odd wayI always felt bad for Sutil (only since you mention breaking his legs) ever since that once Monaco GP when he was running pretty well (4th place I think?) and Kimi lost control or something and slammed straight into him. Poor kidEdit: Wait nevermind, I looked into it. Apparently he passed under a yellow flag and would've been penalized (and dropped out of the points anyway)...

I've got nothing against Sutil, hes a good driver, but he'll never be a great whereas the other two in that team have that potential.

Don't follow this kind of thing myself personally, but just wanted to add that former vocalist/guitarist for prog band Triumvirat the late Helmut Koellen was an  auto mechanic and avid race car driver

Yeah, its great artwork, which is why I chose it. I like cats, but those are ugly in your avy, I miss the R8.

I hope Vettel trips up badly this year.  I just don't like the guy.

Hmm, any clue who will be filling that second Hispania seat?

Ahh great thanks. Shame Hulkenberg couldn't get a real ride somewhere. Part of me wants Maldonada is fail massively.