Phil Collins Is Better than Peter Gabriel

Both are great, just different.  As far as pop goes, I didn't really dig the mid 1980's Genesis stuff but many prog bands went pop for a while just to stay alive.  The 80's were a confusing time for us all. :)

Rush77 wrote: Im not hating on the Peter era tht wz AMAZIN songs and albums its just the Phil era mainly A Trick of the Tail Duke and the Mama album i lean more towards but i do love both but Phil wins by the thickness of 2 hairs

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Well, post W&W is Pop for me (and of the boring kind because there's great POP)...But again, it's my opinion. Iván

I just don't get the whole "pop" thing with Genesis......I totally do not agree on the pop thinking, it makes no sense.....Please explain to me how it makes sense to call any Genesis material "pop".

It's a matter of opinion really...

I like both eras, both have their qualities. Even on albums like Invisible Touch, yes it has tracks that are very much pop/commercial, but tracks like Domino and The Brazilian have more composition depth than most pop music.

The only two albums I really had a hard time getting into, are the last two studio ones. I really like Ray Wilson on the last, but I just can't listen to the entire Calling All Stations album. Just 3-4 tracks, which I really like, but that's it. But I could put it on in a couple of years and like it. You never know...

Gabriel, Fripp and Hammill were, are and will be Prog music!!!

Edited by 1967/ 1976 - January 14 2011 at 09:30

If, even on a prog forum , it would make elitist to prefer the Gabriel era, so be it.  Gabriel Genesis is a step higher in depth and emotion. Only one thing improved, and briefly at that, after Gabriel left, that being Collins's drumming, which peaked on Brand X/ Trick of the tail.  This is not to say that Collins-Genesis is all bad though that is NOT where I'd be heading for some good pop but even the best of Trick/Wind can't hold a candle to umm....Cryme, Foxtrot, SEBTP, Lamb, masterpiece after masterpiece right there!

Catcher10 wrote:   If you move away from the term "pop" and drop that from your vocabulary......I think you will appreciate the later Genesis recordings more. And its not all 100% progressive rock...correct, but I fear that you are listening to genre definitions rather than listening to music. But at the end of the day its about personal choice.....Thanks Ivan!

Fully agree with the OP. Gabriel was the better drummer though, but he started doing the vocals because his costumes got in the way of the drumkit.



Edited by Bonnek - January 14 2011 at 14:05

I think Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins were equally talented but they definitely had different styles. Peter's Genesis was classic prog rock at its best. After Peter left Genesis he continued to create music with an eccentric flair, while the remaining members became an 80's pop/soft rock sensation. As a lover of prog, I prefer the music of the Gabriel/Genesis era. 

For me, it seems too difficult to make such a comparison. Collins is first and foremost a musician, then a singer second. Gabriel is first and foremost a writer, and a singer second. The only thing you can really compare is their singing style, and that's a matter of personal taste, nothing else.