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Mr ProgFreak 
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 Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:04 |
^ Well, I enjoyed reading your post and seeing all those cheeses listed, I'm now going to have some cheese. It's just a crappy supermarket cheese which I'll have with a small salami and a diet Dr. Pepper, but it's the best I can do for now.
BTW: I added a video in the original post ... I encourage everyone to check it out. It's very entertaining, too - I found it by accident a few hours ago, and if I had found it earlier I would have included it right from the start. It's amazing - it's very well done, it's witty, and it's 100% accurate from what I can tell (based on all I read).
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:09 |
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I don't like French Wine so much. I prefer Aus, Argentinian, Chilean is usually excellent. And cheese, I'll go for British. Especially a Stilton or a magnificent well matured Cheddar. But there are many great vareital cheeses here.
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Anthony H.
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:51 |
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This thread makes me want some KFC.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 16:36 |
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^ Chicken wings and a salad ... about the only sensible low-carb choice in any fast food restaurant.
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 16:39 |
 Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ Chicken wings and a salad ... about the only sensible low-carb choice in any fast food restaurant. |
I disagree. Wings have a very high proportion of fat compared to meat. Breast or thigh without skin is the only choice.
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 17:15 |
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Food has an interference with the spiritual side to things. Now this totally depends on how one wants to think of that statement. However, it is a fact that if you fast you feel more in touch with your spiritual side. If you personally choose to believe in fasting or contemplation. Monks supposedly in the past have been known to fast in order to bare the pain of other people's sins. The change of your physical body takes about a month. Hunger by then will subside. Then you begin to feel lighter physically and spiritually. You can actually reach the point of not needing food. Some people may consider you ideal for mental help as they notice your abundance of weight loss. Still the fact remains that a quarter pounder with cheese will surely distort your meditation. So the carbohydrates or the energy given to you through eating food can be obtained in another method of practice. It's when you wash your body out and start over with a new body that flourishes levels of spiritual energy. Why this actually works I do not know? All I realize is there is some kind of seperation between indulgence of food and devoted spiritual works. I am not that religious but often ponder why the 2 do not balance themselves evenly.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 17:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ Chicken wings and a salad ... about the only sensible low-carb choice in any fast food restaurant. |
I disagree. Wings have a very high proportion of fat compared to meat. Breast or thigh without skin is the only choice. |
Saturated fat is good for you ... if you manage to eat it *instead* of carbs. I'd prefer wings over nuggets for that very reason.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 17:40 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ Chicken wings and a salad ... about the only sensible low-carb choice in any fast food restaurant. |
I disagree. Wings have a very high proportion of fat compared to meat. Breast or thigh without skin is the only choice. |
Saturated fat is good for you ... if you manage to eat it *instead* of carbs. I'd prefer wings over nuggets for that very reason. |
Nonsense. Saturated fat is never good for you.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 17:44 |
TODDLER wrote:
Food has an interference with the spiritual side to things. Now this totally depends on how one wants to think of that statement. However, it is a fact that if you fast you feel more in touch with your spiritual side. If you personally choose to believe in fasting or contemplation. Monks supposedly in the past have been known to fast in order to bare the pain of other people's sins. The change of your physical body takes about a month. Hunger by then will subside. Then you begin to feel lighter physically and spiritually. You can actually reach the point of not needing food. Some people may consider you ideal for mental help as they notice your abundance of weight loss. Still the fact remains that a quarter pounder with cheese will surely distort your meditation. So the carbohydrates or the energy given to you through eating food can be obtained in another method of practice. It's when you wash your body out and start over with a new body that flourishes levels of spiritual energy. Why this actually works I do not know? All I realize is there is some kind of seperation between indulgence of food and devoted spiritual works. I am not that religious but often ponder why the 2 do not balance themselves evenly. |
Fasting will, if taken to extreme levels, also make your body secrete natural endorphins ... so some people might confuse tripping with having a spiritual experience. The same can occur during extreme endurance training (called the "runner's high").
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 17:47 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ Chicken wings and a salad ... about the only sensible low-carb choice in any fast food restaurant. |
I disagree. Wings have a very high proportion of fat compared to meat. Breast or thigh without skin is the only choice. |
Saturated fat is good for you ... if you manage to eat it *instead* of carbs. I'd prefer wings over nuggets for that very reason. |
Nonsense. Saturated fat is never good for you. |
It raises your HDL ... most doctors would call that a good thing. Add to that the fact that the carbohydrates you replace it with would raise your triglycerides. So actually switching to saturated fat from carbs raises your HDL and lowers your triglycerides.
BTW: Some saturated fats are more beneficial than others - the raising of HDL is mostly attributed to animal fats (think lard or bacon - or chicken skin).
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TODDLER
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 19:14 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
TODDLER wrote:
Food has an interference with the spiritual side to things. Now this totally depends on how one wants to think of that statement. However, it is a fact that if you fast you feel more in touch with your spiritual side. If you personally choose to believe in fasting or contemplation. Monks supposedly in the past have been known to fast in order to bare the pain of other people's sins. The change of your physical body takes about a month. Hunger by then will subside. Then you begin to feel lighter physically and spiritually. You can actually reach the point of not needing food. Some people may consider you ideal for mental help as they notice your abundance of weight loss. Still the fact remains that a quarter pounder with cheese will surely distort your meditation. So the carbohydrates or the energy given to you through eating food can be obtained in another method of practice. It's when you wash your body out and start over with a new body that flourishes levels of spiritual energy. Why this actually works I do not know? All I realize is there is some kind of seperation between indulgence of food and devoted spiritual works. I am not that religious but often ponder why the 2 do not balance themselves evenly. |
Fasting will, if taken to extreme levels, also make your body secrete natural endorphins ... so some people might confuse tripping with having a spiritual experience. The same can occur during extreme endurance training (called the "runner's high"). |
 Interesting. I should have researched this but I am thankful for your reply. I will be researching it tonight. I find the aspect of confusing tripping with a spiritual experience truly interesting. thanks for the reply.
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 20:54 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Well i've got some Brie De Meaux, some Vacherin (the french, not the swiss), some Abondance (a bit softer taste Appenzeller), some Bleu des Causses (very close to Roquefort, but with raw milk for added taste), some goat cheese (a fairly fresh Selle sur Cher and a matured St-Maure), some very "stinky" Epoisses and some Munster (Alsace) and some 18-months Laguiolle (like the cheese knife) which is a sort of Cantal (crumbly like a cheddar)
They're all on my Schist-slate cheese plate, gaining the right temperature (expecting the buddies in some 20 minutes). I've also got some white liquoreux Quart De Chaume (again LMoire Valley) for the blue cheese, Fine dark origin chocolate and 21-yr old Macallan single malt... then some finely matured Jamaican Lamb's bread ganja |
sounds terrific Hugues, do you try to cleanse your palate between cheeses or just go crazy ? BTW my fingers smelled like a corpse for three days after touching some aged Morbier once
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 22:10 |
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I gained 5 pounds over Christmas, but am still the thinnest/lightest person in my house. Anyway, school starts again in 2 days and then I will be rock climbing 3 times a week
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manofmystery
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 00:31 |
To paraphrase what I censored: If you don't find yourself excited downstairs, by now, you may be the type of person that enjoys the company of other members of the same sex, exclusively.
Edited by manofmystery - January 09 2011 at 00:37
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 04:03 |
Nice! I would leave out the bread crumbs as well as the bun - but other than that I have no objections. Of course it should be noted that calorie wise, one of those easily constitutes a full meal - so don't confuse it with a mid-afternoon snack. 
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 05:32 |
Atavachron wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Well i've got some Brie De Meaux, some Vacherin (the french, not the swiss), some Abondance (a bit softer taste Appenzeller), some Bleu des Causses (very close to Roquefort, but with raw milk for added taste), some goat cheese (a fairly fresh Selle sur Cher and a matured St-Maure), some very "stinky" Epoisses and some Munster (Alsace) and some 18-months Laguiolle (like the cheese knife) which is a sort of Cantal (crumbly like a cheddar)
They're all on my Schist-slate cheese plate, gaining the right temperature (expecting the buddies in some 20 minutes). I've also got some white liquoreux Quart De Chaume (again LMoire Valley) for the blue cheese, Fine dark origin chocolate and 21-yr old Macallan single malt... then some finely matured Jamaican Lamb's bread ganja
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sounds terrific Hugues, do you try to cleanse your palate between cheeses or just go crazy ?
BTW my fingers smelled like a corpse for three days after touching some aged Morbier once |
Good question... I was going to tell Mike , who was hinting to drop the bread (probably for food dissociation purposes), but the bread is one of the best mouth neutraliser both with wine (see for these wine testing festivals) and cheeses....
some of these cheeses can wall paper your palate (and ruin the wine tasting)... so in-between cheeses it's always a good idea to get a small mouthful of bread, which definitely has its importance .... no creamy industrial-type foam breads that you find in supermarkets... more like ciabattas or artisan baguettes
Morbier is absolutely wonderful (the "blue in there is not of the blue cheese, but oak ashes thrown in there, which helps the ripening.... it's also an excellent cheese to use as raclette cheese.... just melt it under the grill, and eat it with bread or baked potatoes (better oven baked potatoes than water-cooked)....
yes, it leaves a difficult to scrub odor on t-e hands, but theoretically dishwashing liquid and nail/handbrush works rather well
Morbier can smell, but it's not one of the worst (Epoisses, Maroil, Herve, and Munster top that easily), so it's best to use knives & forks whenever possible
Snow Dog wrote:
I don't like French Wine so much. I prefer Aus, Argentinian, Chilean is usually excellent. And cheese, I'll go for British. Especially a Stilton or a magnificent well matured Cheddar. But there are many great vareital cheeses here. |
Australians make good wines, but never exceptional.... they've got a very commercial attitude towards wine.... they make consumer studiies about their tastyes in wines ..... and make the wines acciording to it..... Unlike the french with their AOC wines and the regulations (many constraints) to have the AOC....they makethe wine the way nature and climate make it... Aussies don't hesitate to ammend the soils and water the vines whenever needed.... which is forbidden in most (all?) French AOC denominations
as for British cheeses, I prefer the Shropshire Blue cheese to the Stilton.... but there are some mega-fine matured Farmhouse cheddars as well, both in England and Ireland (and I suppose Wales as well). [/QUOTE]
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Sean Trane
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 05:35 |
manofmystery wrote:
To paraphrase what I censored: If you don't find yourself excited downstairs, by now, you may be the type of person that enjoys the company of other members of the same sex, exclusively. |
Man, I can feel an artery clogging-up just from looking at that recipe
why bother cooking the weenie, though  ??? ... it's already been pre-cooked
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BTW, I found out recently that if you hav a good Tefal (non-stick) frying pan and bring it to the right temperature, you don't need any fat like butter , industrial substitute (margarines and other trash) or oil to cook up the meat.... (steaks or ground meats)... however I would try that in an oven for poultry or roastbeefs
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Edited by Sean Trane - January 09 2011 at 05:47
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 13:59 |
Saturated Fat doesn't clog arteries ... that's one of the main points that I wish more people would understand. Rather than going completely low-carb, you could greatly improve your diet by cutting back on sugar and refined carbs, avoiding trans-fats and vegetable-oils and instead using healthy fats like lard, butter/cream and coconut oil for cooking.
And watch the first two parts of the video that I linked to in the OP - even if just for a laugh. 
Edited by Mr ProgFreak - January 09 2011 at 14:19
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:01 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Good question... I was going to tell Mike , who was hinting to drop the bread (probably for food dissociation purposes), but the bread is one of the best mouth neutraliser both with wine (see for these wine testing festivals) and cheeses....
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I would drop the bread because it's empty calories from refined grains, and I think that for some people this kind of food causes some nasty problems - obesity being the most obvious.
As an alternative, I would recommend a mildly seasoned salad of leafy greens.  |
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Posted: January 09 2011 at 20:04 |
manofmystery wrote:
To paraphrase what I censored: If you don't find yourself excited downstairs, by now, you may be the type of person that enjoys the company of other members of the same sex, exclusively. |
I'm confused. Wouldn't it be a homosexual who gets excited about a giant stick of meet? I can't do low carb, but I've been trying to cut back my sugar. Mike is right, though, Snow Dog, saturated fat is really overrated as the most horrible thing to eat.
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