Things you're really, really NOT into. (not music)

Chela wrote: Onions, those cars that drive by with the BOOM BOOM BOOM music, the word "random", people that don't signal when turning, people that zip in and out of lanes on the freeway, perfume, obnoxious folks, football, Victoria's Secret , I know there is more... I just can't recall all of them. Oh, religion is one of them too.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: stonebeard wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad. How so? Advertising can be good, if honest, but I find that very hard to come by. Most advertising has the goal of getting people to want a product. Sometimes they need that product, a lot of times not. Rarely is there just advertising with the goal of accurately depicting the product's flaws and positives and not trying to spin it. Adults should have some sense of caution when taking the word of advertisements for what they say they are, but that doesn't mean I should believe ads are good if their main goal is to get people to buy a product, often through omission that the product has any number of faults. But I wonder how anyone not profiting from the sale of products marketed to children on television can say that is a good thing. Especially when it comes to completely unhealthy food products with childrens' pop culture icons hocking junk food. Advertising imparts information to the consumer. I receive about 5 emails a day with very helpful advertising. Often tv advertising helps me discover a product I would know nothing about otherwise. If you're stupid enough to buy something you don't need just because you saw it appear on tv, then you should probably be shot. Most criticism of advertising doesn't really make sense. It assumes that consumers are mindlessly buying things just because they've heard of it.

And of any advertising geared toward people that cannot physically avoid being influenced by it, such as children? Is all kinds of advertising during commercials of kids shows just fine and dandy, regardless of content?

Onions, those cars that drive by with the BOOM BOOM BOOM music, the word "random", people that don't signal when turning, people that zip in and out of lanes on the freeway, perfume, obnoxious folks, football, Victoria's Secret , I know there is more... I just can't recall all of them. Oh, religion is one of them too.

stonebeard wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad. How so? Advertising can be good, if honest, but I find that very hard to come by. Most advertising has the goal of getting people to want a product. Sometimes they need that product, a lot of times not. Rarely is there just advertising with the goal of accurately depicting the product's flaws and positives and not trying to spin it. Adults should have some sense of caution when taking the word of advertisements for what they say they are, but that doesn't mean I should believe ads are good if their main goal is to get people to buy a product, often through omission that the product has any number of faults. But I wonder how anyone not profiting from the sale of products marketed to children on television can say that is a good thing. Especially when it comes to completely unhealthy food products with childrens' pop culture icons hocking junk food.

Equality 7-2521 wrote: I'm really dislike the opinion that advertising is bad.

How so?

Advertising can be good, if honest, but I find that very hard to come by.

Most advertising has the goal of getting people to want a product. Sometimes they need that product, a lot of times not. Rarely is there just advertising with the goal of accurately depicting the product's flaws and positives and not trying to spin it. Adults should have some sense of caution when taking the word of advertisements for what they say they are, but that doesn't mean I should believe ads are good if their main goal is to get people to buy a product, often through omission that the product has any number of faults.

But I wonder how anyone not profiting from the sale of products marketed to children on television can say that is a good thing. Especially when it comes to completely unhealthy food products with childrens' pop culture icons hocking junk food.

Yeah. They always seem to rate every new jazz/classical album 3/4 stars. It's like they have no idea what they're listening to so they give it a good, but not amazing rating and write some banal description that could apply to any album ever made.

EasyMoney wrote: Popular science writing?!? That one was different, just curious about that one.

Edited by Equality 7-2521 - January 08 2011 at 14:38

Padraic wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair".  Sometimes reading those articles you can almost envision the "journalist" interviewing the scientist, taking notes, and struggling mightily to figure out what the hell the other person is talking about.  Obviously my favorite are articles about new DoD radar systems, the explanations of their capabilities are laughably bad, but at least there I wouldn't necessarily expect a layman to know the relevant physics.  What irks me is just basic misunderstanding about the scientific method, or engaging in post hoc fallacies, or as already stated gross misuse of statistics.

I get it, bad science. My favorite bad science is when people use the particular weather of that day or week to prove or disprove global warming. For instance; sure was cold today, those global warming people are nuts, or damn its hot out, I hate global warming, neither is acceptable.

Any Colour You Like wrote: I'm really not into people.

Not even of the female kind?

Henry Plainview wrote: I like how so many of our lists are similar. We may not be able to agree on whether or not Yes or Genesis is better, but we are united by hate. <3 Everything on my list has pretty much been covered. I could complain about any number of things, but I think this thread is getting off-topic from its original intent, which seems to have been "activities/media/food you dislike" but we're drifting towards "general things that annoy me/I consider evil". You can't be "not into" corporations, greedy people, pregnancy tests, and disease. Easy Money wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: GovernmentMisuse of Statistics90% of Popular Science Writing Popular science writing?!? That one was different, just curious about that one. It's usually misleading and best and outright false at worst. The media's inability/unwillingness to coherently report on science issues causes a lot of problems in society. Besides the "X is good for you! Y is bad for you! Gorge yourself on X and avoid Y at all costs! Wait, it's been 6 months and there's been a new small study on mice, it's actually the other way around!", the real damage comes from giving any legitimacy to the idiotic anti-vaxxers, AGW deniers, and any other pseudoscience that has caught public attention, in attempt to appear "fair".  Anthony H. wrote: -Genocide -Child Torture Few people have the courage to take a bold stance against genocide and child torture, bravo. I'm glad that you qualified only child torture, though. Otherwise I might feel bad for all the adults I'm planning to torture (PHIL COLLINS YOUR NUMBER IS UP).

As is the norm for Henry a very perceptive and carefully considered post but we are NOT united by hate, just irritation.