Phil Collins Is Better than Peter Gabriel

Many considered Gabriel to be Genesis so when he left it was a massive responsibilty to fill his boots. Collins managed to do that and Genesis became to me more of a band in the traditional sense. The four albums post Gabriel are very impressive and as a live band they went into the stratosphere. Plenty of life after Gabriel rather than the dead duck that was possibly expected. It also meant that Banks role in the band was now fully appreciated.

catfood03 wrote: Evolver wrote: And Big Macs are better than real hamburgers.  Why?  They sell more of them. Rush77 did not imply that commercial success is why Collins era is better.  I'm not surprised anymore how Collins fans are chastised here as being disingenuous, lacking good judgement, or simply insane.  (ok, the latter two charges could stick).  Also like the OP I love both eras, and even don't mind Wilson's stuff.  Some art can be comerrcialy sucessful and good music.  I make no secret of my love for Invisible Touch.  Is it better than Lamb?  No, but aside from excessive radio play (hence the "success", it has many well-crafted songs. oh, and Rush77, everyone is right... yr posts r hard 2 read

I wasn't implying he said that. (I was poking a stick into a nest of bees - but keep it quiet - no one is supposed to know )

catfood03 wrote: Evolver wrote: catfood03 wrote: Evolver wrote: And Big Macs are better than real hamburgers.  Why?  They sell more of them. Rush77 did not imply that commercial success is why Collins era is better.  I'm not surprised anymore how Collins fans are chastised here as being disingenuous, lacking good judgement, or simply insane.  (ok, the latter two charges could stick).  Also like the OP I love both eras, and even don't mind Wilson's stuff.  Some art can be comerrcialy sucessful and good music.  I make no secret of my love for Invisible Touch.  Is it better than Lamb?  No, but aside from excessive radio play (hence the "success", it has many well-crafted songs. oh, and Rush77, everyone is right... yr posts r hard 2 read I wasn't implying he said that. (I was poking a stick into a nest of bees - but keep it quiet - no one is supposed to know ) ok... then you were implying Collins work is, um... cheesy like a Big Mac!      right?

You've got it!  Collins will clog your arteries.

lol @ the elitist prick attitude this thread is filled with. This is exactly why many other music fans dislike prog fans.

Edited by DisgruntledPorcupine - January 07 2011 at 10:05

Genesis with Collins lasted only until Duke, after that I hesitate to consider them Genesis even if they kept that name.

Rush77 wrote: Now i have ur attention i think the Phil era was better than the peter era. First dont get me wrong i love the Peter era of Genesis with great albums like Foxtrot and Selling England by the pound but i always seem to gravitate to Phil more than Peter in Genesis and solo projects. I like them both but Phil wins because of 2 factors 1. His singing to me is more accesibile and more natural than Peter and 2. i believe Phil as the frontman fit more than Peter as the frontman it just seemed more lik it belongs. Ik ppl r gnna say the songwriting was better in the Peter era but i think not. Songs like Watcher of the Skies and Supper's Ready are great but its just that Behind the Lines Home by the Sea Mama The Brazillian just sounded better and went with them more if u ask me. Ik im gnna get hate for this and im ready

Rush77 wrote: yes the typing was in text language just cuz its easier to type that way.

It's just a matter of taste, some like Prog, others like Pop.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 07 2011 at 19:05

Well, post W&W is Pop for me (and of the boring kind because there's great POP)...But again, it's my opinion.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 07 2011 at 19:07

I think you're wrong, but you have a right to your opinion.  Phil was very keen to be a "crowd-pleaser" though so maybe that makes him a more natural frontman. I grew up listening to the PC version of Genesis, but going back to PG was an amazingly ear-opening experience.