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Joined: July 27 2010
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Posted: December 23 2010 at 17:14
Tarkus is the best ELP release ever and the first i've listened to,i keep on listening to it from time to time,loudly of course!!to feel the hamond through my body, a real achievement!!!
Joined: December 01 2010
Location: London, England
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Posted: December 30 2010 at 13:37
No live Hammond stage sound was ever bigger than Billy Ritchie with Clouds; like listening to two organists playing in unison. You can hear that to some extent on 'Cold Sweat' the the middle and coda of 'Sing Sing Sing'. Fastest ever hands too. He cut off before the Prog era really got going, so doesn't (in my opinion) really qualify as a true Prog keyboard player, he was a Hammond organist, and that's it, I'm not sure he could even have translated himself into the synth era to the standard of excellence brought by Emerson and Wakeman. But Hammond, yes, absolutely the best. It was a massive sound, The Nice couldn't live with that on a live stage. Tony Kaye (Yes) even tried copying the Hammond settings Ritchie used, but it still didn't sound the same, much to Tony's puzzlement. What he needed was a left hand as strong as his right.
Joined: May 12 2014
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Posted: June 25 2016 at 16:25
Tony Kaye (Yes) even tried copying the Hammond settings Ritchie used, but it still didn't sound the same, much to Tony's puzzlement. What he needed was a left hand as strong as his right.
Did not know this was public knowledge..Billy told me that many times
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
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Posted: June 25 2016 at 17:25
Alberto Muñoz wrote:
Dave Stewart have the most sinister tones of any album of any prog artist to date.
I was gonna say..........Dave Stewart is No. 1 for Hammond. Keith was stupendous with his Hammonds, but Dave - that solo at the beginning of Dreams Wide Awake - Keith was never that wild - or perhaps a different 'wild' , but never played as ripping as Dave. Still love Tarkus - Iconoclast - that Hammond is ALIVE !!
Dave Stewart on The Polite Force? I am not certain about what all equipment he was using, but this is some nasty keyboard playing.
I do prefer Stewart's playing to Emerson's as such. I feel Emerson didn't show much growth from his initial, revolutionary burst. Stewart's playing on the Khan album after this, then Hatfield and finally National Health at the end of the same decade all show varied influences and developments in his style.
Same with me. To me, Dave Stewart is an underappreciated maestro and one of the most gifted musicians I have ever heard play. As opposed to Wakeman, Sinclair, and Emerson, who used B3/C3 type organ, Stewart used a so called spinet model (L-122), similarly to Rick Wright (M-100), Thijs Van Leer, Hugh Banton or Tony Banks to name a few. These give a much smoother, brighter sound, and less what you might associate with jazz or soul, but rather with church organ. I've found that these models tend to react better with fuzz, hence Stewart's nasty fuzzed out, bulldozer-like organ tones. Long Piece No. 3 is a perfect display of various sounds he was able to achieve.
But yeah, Tarkus is a perfect demonstration of where the great late Keith Emerson could go with his organ. I particularly like the percussive sound of his Hammond.
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Joined: September 03 2005
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Posted: June 26 2016 at 08:06
Vincent Crane had an awesome tone on Crazy World Of Arthur Brown and the Atomic Rooster debut. Kind of 'rickety' and 'squeaky', if you get what I'm trying to say..... For me, I think that ELP's rendition of Mussorgsky tops Tarkus by a hair.
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