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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 11:00
I know what's up with that? I love the rain, but we're just getting the sh*tty skies without any precipitation. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 11:57
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Social ostracizing is much more effective than legal punishment. 


Probably not for that white trash scumbag.*








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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 12:01
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Social ostracizing is much more effective than legal punishment. 


Probably not for that white trash scumbag.*








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In prison you get fed. If nobody sells you food, you don't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 12:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 12:06
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Social ostracizing is much more effective than legal punishment. 


Probably not for that white trash scumbag.*








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In prison you get fed. If nobody sells you food, you don't.


They could make her do community service.

I somehow doubt that enough businesses would forgo her patronage to legitimately make her life hell like that. But maybe they surprise.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 12:19
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/money/family-mourns-man-who-was-denied-transplant-11-29-2010


Am I misreading something?

It seems to me that private charity was more effective than government programs, and the journalist's conclusion is more government programs?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 13:34
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/money/family-mourns-man-who-was-denied-transplant-11-29-2010


Am I misreading something?

It seems to me that private charity was more effective than government programs, and the journalist's conclusion is more government programs?


Not just the journalist's, but the family's as well.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 17:46
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/money/family-mourns-man-who-was-denied-transplant-11-29-2010


Am I misreading something?

It seems to me that private charity was more effective than government programs, and the journalist's conclusion is more government programs?


Not just the journalist's, but the family's as well.


"Gentlemen, I've gathered you here today because you are the brightest minds our country has to offer. Government has failed us yet again. Your task is to find a solution. What say you?"

"More government!"

"Brilliant! It didn't work last time we tried it, but obviously that's because we didn't go far enough. What fools we've been!"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2010 at 19:55
LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 10:07
Pat, have you tried double-checking the law on schoolbus stops? :P That's also a ridiculously poorly written article, but oh well journalism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 11:08
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Pat, have you tried double-checking the law on schoolbus stops? :P That's also a ridiculously poorly written article, but oh well journalism.

Pat is still a major criminal force if we read the law the right way. He didn't stop the bus, he didn't try to stop the bus. He failed society. 
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The bus stopped on its own to pick up children, he didn't need to intervene. He would only be obligated if the bus driver recklessly tried to pick up children while still moving.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 11:30
Read the law well HP. It implies that people have to stop any stopped bus that is unloading children. Pat had to go after the bus that was already stopped, and stop it. Interpretations abound as to what he would have had to do; I would favor the two major thought currents in the scholar world: a) he had to stop the bus from unloading children, ergo he had to forcefully close the door of the bus by parking his car right next to it; or, b) after the children step out of the bus, Pat would have had to park in fron of the bus thus stopping it from further movement. 

Anyway Pat failed. He's in debt to society. For that, he should pay a 70% tax on his income till the day he dies or wear a Che Guevara t-shirt till every hour of every day till he's 50. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 11:44
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Pat, have you tried double-checking the law on schoolbus stops? :P That's also a ridiculously poorly written article, but oh well journalism.


The link refuses to reveal its secrets to me for some reason.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Read the law well HP. It implies that people have to stop any stopped bus that is unloading children. Pat had to go after the bus that was already stopped, and stop it. Interpretations abound as to what he would have had to do; I would favor the two major thought currents in the scholar world: a) he had to stop the bus from unloading children, ergo he had to forcefully close the door of the bus by parking his car right next to it; or, b) after the children step out of the bus, Pat would have had to park in fron of the bus thus stopping it from further movement. 

Anyway Pat failed. He's in debt to society. For that, he should pay a 70% tax on his income till the day he dies or wear a Che Guevara t-shirt till every hour of every day till he's 50. 


Little do you know I actually respect Che.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 12:29
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Read the law well HP. It implies that people have to stop any stopped bus that is unloading children. Pat had to go after the bus that was already stopped, and stop it. Interpretations abound as to what he would have had to do; I would favor the two major thought currents in the scholar world: a) he had to stop the bus from unloading children, ergo he had to forcefully close the door of the bus by parking his car right next to it; or, b) after the children step out of the bus, Pat would have had to park in fron of the bus thus stopping it from further movement. 

Anyway Pat failed. He's in debt to society. For that, he should pay a 70% tax on his income till the day he dies or wear a Che Guevara t-shirt till every hour of every day till he's 50. 


Little do you know I actually respect Che.

i would have guessed a little of that. He was an idealist and dies defending what he believed in. But I'm sure you don't particularly love 1) his ideas about society and the way it should be run; 2) what he has come to represent after his death
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2010 at 12:38
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Read the law well HP. It implies that people have to stop any stopped bus that is unloading children. Pat had to go after the bus that was already stopped, and stop it. Interpretations abound as to what he would have had to do; I would favor the two major thought currents in the scholar world: a) he had to stop the bus from unloading children, ergo he had to forcefully close the door of the bus by parking his car right next to it; or, b) after the children step out of the bus, Pat would have had to park in fron of the bus thus stopping it from further movement. 

Anyway Pat failed. He's in debt to society. For that, he should pay a 70% tax on his income till the day he dies or wear a Che Guevara t-shirt till every hour of every day till he's 50. 


Little do you know I actually respect Che.

i would have guessed a little of that. He was an idealist and dies defending what he believed in. But I'm sure you don't particularly love 1) his ideas about society and the way it should be run; 2) what he has come to represent after his death


No I don't like what his symbol has come to mean.

However, he was a freedom fighter who sought to overthrow an oppressive government. I respect that.
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