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Oveluus 
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Joined: November 17 2010 Location: Colombia Status: Offline Points: 3 |
 Topic: Why do italians like prog rock but french don'tPosted: November 17 2010 at 21:58 |
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:58 |
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The French are too snobby even for Porg Rock. Leave them to their wine and cheese, I say.
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Textbook
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Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:01 |
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It is a bit odd that a nation with a reputation for being extremely serious about art and pretentious doesn't have much time for prog.
Or is it? Because before you have prog rock, you need to have ROCK. And the French never really rock 'n' rolled. Hale And Pace even made a song about it.
Rock was too crass or barbaric or American or something so it never really took off. Name some significant rock bands from France. Exactly. And without a regular rock scene, how could a prog rock scene survive/develop?
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:05 |
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Plastic Bertrand? No, wait that's Belgium. I got nothing... |
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:09 |
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There is a section on allmusic about French Rock. It contains a total of ten artists, none of which (except the above mentioned which is actually Belgian) I have heard of.
http://www.allmusic.com/explore/style/french-rock-d7744 |
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VanVanVan
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Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 756 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:19 |
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Are we not counting Magma?
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"The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:26 |
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Of course not. Don't be silly. |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:43 |
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The French avant-rock scene doesn't really count as signficant for mainstream culture, although I think the OP would be unfair to marginalize them in comparison to Italy's prog scene. I also can't think of a regular rock band from France, I guess they were all too busy listening to Edith Piaf.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Triceratopsoil
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Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:01 |
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Why do Canadians like prog rock but americans don't?
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:05 |
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What are you talking about? There are more American members and more American bands on this site than Canadian ones. I don't care how great Rush is, they don't make Canadians more prog friendly than the US. |
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The T
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:06 |
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There has been plenty of great music made in France... Rock just isn't in their blood...
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thellama73
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:10 |
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In fact, even France has a much bigger presence on PA than Canada.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60508&PID=3351263#3351263 |
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Manuel
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Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:43 |
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Maybe because the French are........French.
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octopus-4
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RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14551 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:32 |
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But are you sure about Italians? Lot of RPI bands doesn't mean that a significant percentage of Italians love prog.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:34 |
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The Italians took Van Der Graaf Generator to #1 on their charts. Think about that.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 02:27 |
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You have to be kidding me...
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 02:28 |
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Same reason the English like prog but Scots don't?
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idlero
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 02:32 |
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I think we should let the French answer this question
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 03:38 |
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One prog band at #1 for a week (if we don't consider Pink Floyd) in the last 40 years can't be considered statistically significant. It's just 1 on 2080 weeks. |
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 03:44 |
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I'm gonna leave this here: FRANCE
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