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I think what all you libertarians want is a good for-profit cavity search... After all, you should be making money off your innards... Tongue
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

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I loves me some good government propaganda.
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Should harboring a fugitive be a crime?

I saw 3 seconds of a family guy episode while flipping around last night which led me to question this matter.

I've decided that I can't see why it would be a crime.
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Pat is trying his best to deny he watches Family Guy
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 16:39
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Pat is trying his best to deny he watches Family Guy




I don't deny admitting I watch it, but if I laughed at it I would have to deny that.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 17:42
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Should harboring a fugitive be a crime?

You can't harbor a fugitive, but I think it's ok to put concrete galoshes on a fugitive and dump him in the harbor.  Just be sure no one sees you do it. Wink

By the way, great cartoon Padriac.  You are impinging on my territory and I would hate to see anything get broken. LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 17 2010 at 17:45
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Should harboring a fugitive be a crime?

You can't harbor a fugitive, but I think it's ok to put concrete galoshes on a fugitive and dump him in the harbor.  Just be sure no one sees you do it. Wink


What if the fugitive is on a boat? Then you could harbor him.
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Pat's humor, it exists 
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I don't know if harboring a fugitive should be illegal, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to do so if I felt like he had been treated unjustly. And chance the consequences!
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I don't know if harboring a fugitive should be illegal, but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to do so if I felt like he had been treated unjustly. And chance the consequences!


...oh that's good to know.
So....llama.....
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:48
I don't understand how harboring a fugitive could not be a crime. I would agree with llama that there are probably instances where I would feel it is ok to do so (like the NAAAAAAAAAZIS), but that doesn't affect the general legality of it.

Also, this thread got a lot more fun now that we've abandoned the pretense of having serious quote tree debates like in the early days, which are now over a year ago(!)
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Where's Rob? Confused
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I don't think harboring a fugitive should be a crime. Specially if said fugitive has not been tried and convicted yet. 

This leads me to another question:how come here in the US when a prisoner tries to flee and is captured they punish him? Even in my upside-down country it is recognized that any man's first instinct is to be free, and if one tries to break out of the cage, and is caught, he should be taken back to it, but not punished for doing what comes from that most human part of his nature. Yes, freedom is the natural state of man. 

(I just don't equate freedom with a total lack of government though if you will start implying that you libertines... Tongue)
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:54
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Where's Rob? Confused


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Yeah...harboring a fugitive pretty much has to be illegal.
Not to get into the whole "what makes a law right?" and freedom but simply:

The law is the law, if you brake it then you're a criminal, so harboring one is illegal. Isn't it kind of like being an accomplice?

So on paper, yes harboring a fugitive should be illegal what if they did something like murder? Or treason? You'd be fine with letting someone keep them safe and protected from punishment?
Keep it illegal and if you feel you need to harbor them, then go for it.

If you are caught then you pay the price, simple. If said fugitive was wrongly accused/got a bad hand or something like that hopefully the system will right it and you'll also be forgiven (for doing whats right)...and if you're harboring a murderer than you also must pay the price.


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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:57
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I don't think harboring a fugitive should be a crime. Specially if said fugitive has not been tried and convicted yet. 

This leads me to another question:how come here in the US when a prisoner tries to flee and is captured they punish him? Even in my upside-down country it is recognized that any man's first instinct is to be free, and if one tries to break out of the cage, and is caught, he should be taken back to it, but not punished for doing what comes from that most human part of his nature. Yes, freedom is the natural state of man. 

(I just don't equate freedom with a total lack of government though if you will start implying that you libertines... Tongue)


Presumably the punishment is meant to deter escape attempts. If there were no consequences to trying to escape, what's to stop every prisoner trying for it every day? Imagine how exhausting that would be for the guards.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:05
I need Pat to back me on this one. 



(I can't believe I just said that... Confused)
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:13
You will not see much sympathy from me on the issue of so called "prisoners' rights."In my view, once you commit a crime (at least a serious crime, like murder or rape) you forfeit most of the claims you have towrds being treated with decency or dignity.
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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 23:17
Oh snap, are Teo and Pat going to agree on something while llama and I agree on the other side?

This is madness
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