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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:00
It's getting easier to find the perverts and potential sex offenders in society.  They are all either working for, or applying to the TSA.  I mean, how could any of them resist the opportunity to engage in state endorsed molestation.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:27
I was in favor of full body x-ray scanners as I previously said, but the whole touching thing is too much for me. I actually like Penn's reaction. 

One thing is a negative image of my bones showing in a screen, another one is a guy (or girl, it doesn't matter if it's without consent) touching me just because they think they can. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:44
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

It doesn't annoy me, it annoys the TSA. I am in favor of him annoying everybody because I find it amusing.


I didn't think so. I just wanted to clarify.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:52
I haven't been on a plane in years. I used to fly all the time, but it's just not worth the effort anymore. It's only a matter of time before the TSA drives private airlines out of business and the government is "forced" to buy them out. I can hardly wait.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:53
Or they just claim them as a matter of national security in reaction to some imaginary threat. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:55
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I haven't been on a plane in years. I used to fly all the time, but it's just not worth the effort anymore. It's only a matter of time before the TSA drives private airlines out of business and the government is "forced" to buy them out. I can hardly wait.



You as well?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:01
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

It's getting easier to find the perverts and potential sex offenders in society.  They are all either working for, or applying to the TSA.  I mean, how could any of them resist the opportunity to engage in state endorsed molestation.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1238602

Their background check procedures are less arduous than their boarding a flight procedures.

This happens to a private company, how long do you think it keeps getting contracts?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:04
I really don't understand the fuss at all about airline screening.  Scan me, pat me, I could care less.  We have bigger fish to fry.  A security check seems reasonable to me when the lives of hundreds of people can be snuffed by one assmunch. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:09
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I really don't understand the fuss at all about airline screening.  Scan me, pat me, I could care less.  We have bigger fish to fry.  A security check seems reasonable to me when the lives of hundreds of people can be snuffed by one assmunch. 


It's nice that you feel that way. Unfortunately,  others have deep concerns about being groped, seen naked, and having air travel grind to a halt because this medium was used once in this country for a terrorist activity.

There's thousands of mediums where equally devestating attacks could occur that are completely unscreened.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:11
The Libertopians want the assmunch to have the right to blow up your flight.  Any search is an violation of his right to detonate explosives on a crowed passenger plane.

My God if we give up this right what's next?  Background checks for police officers?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:14
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

The Libertopians want the assmunch to have the right to blow up your flight.  Any search is an violation of his right to detonate explosives on a crowed passenger plane.

My God if we give up this right what's next?  Background checks for police officers?  


You joke, but Pat will be fine with it.
It would be OK to background check cops as long as it was done by private companies of course.

But if they chose not to..

Oh well!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

The Libertopians want the assmunch to have the right to blow up your flight.  Any search is an violation of his right to detonate explosives on a crowed passenger plane.

My God if we give up this right what's next?  Background checks for police officers?  


You joke, but Pat will be fine with it.
It would be OK to background check cops as long as it was done by private companies of course.

But if they chose not to..

Oh well!

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Exactly. If this stuff is private, I'm fine with it. Then they have the right to do search me. Then searchers would actually be accountable to the public. Then this whole security thing would actually make sense and maybe even actually be safe.

EDIT: What's the point in giving background checks to police officers? They're going to do whatever they want to you anyway, and if you don't like it tough sh*t. They're the law, and you're the prole.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - November 17 2010 at 12:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:33
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

The Libertopians want the assmunch to have the right to blow up your flight.  Any search is an violation of his right to detonate explosives on a crowed passenger plane.

My God if we give up this right what's next?  Background checks for police officers?  
And yet, TSA has not caught a single terrorist with 8 billion dollars/year over the past decade. The chance of you actually being the victim of a terrorist attack in America is so incredibly small it's not even worth contemplating if people were logical and not emotional (unfortunately, they're not). And even if it were a rational threat, the screening doesn't make you any safer. Even the employees of the airlines are refusing the scanner!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:36
Yeah, I'm fine personally with trading some freedom for security.

BUT

I'd want to actually feel secure.
Which I can't say I really do with the current way its done.
Hell, the few times I've been to an airport over the last few years it's really been no hassle at all.
Can't say they did much of anything. Ermm

And even if they did as Henry said, it's not like we're much safer. People can still sneak junk onto a plane.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:38
I don't mind people wanting to trade their freedom away. Let airlines make their own security procedures. And then you can start your own airline and require pat-downs of every flier, and all you imagined safety before freedom people can fly on it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:46
Pffft not like we're free anyway Pat.

I'm being robbed every single time I purchase something
I'm subject to a bunch of laws that I never agreed to
Calls are being monitored
People look at my junk when I go through the airport scanners

I can't even do crack.

Keeping us down everywhere possible
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 13:14
I've been wondering:
Does anyone know what the procedure is for children?
 
I can't imagine they'd be allowed to naked scan or grope kids. 
And, as we know from the Israel/Palestinian conflict, terrorists love to use kids as bombs.
So, it would seemto me that these "safety" procedures does nothing but make potential bombers younger.
 
It's a sick process to begin with but if they treat children the same way they do adults then To Catch A Predator needs to start filming at TSA job interviews.


Edited by manofmystery - November 17 2010 at 13:17


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 13:17
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I've been wondering:
Does anyone know what the procedure is for children?


Scare them sh*tless?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2010 at 13:23
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I've been wondering:
Does anyone know what the procedure is for children?
 
I can't imagine they'd be allowed to naked scan or grope kids. 
And, as we know from the Israel/Palestinian conflict, terrorists love to use kids as bombs.
So, it would seemto me that these "safety" procedures does nothing but make potential bombers younger.
 
It's a sick process to begin with but if they treat children the same way they do adults then To Catch A Predator needs to start filming at TSA job interviews.


They were allowed and they were doing it. Due to outrage though they've changed their policy to no screens for those below the age of 12.
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