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^ And in these cases, band cannot admit that it was its leakage. So we're not sure if it's leak or illegal downloading. Difficult.
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I receive some CDs well before the release date due to reasons which will remain private. But I always make sure that the reviews are not published before the release date. So the best rule to avoid any conflicts with the record labels and bands is not to accept any reviews before the release date.

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Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

I receive some CDs well before the release date due to reasons which will remain private. But I always make sure that the reviews are not published before the release date. So the best rule to avoid any conflicts with the record labels and bands is not to accept any reviews before the release date.

Simple.  

 
Even when I agree with you and rather wait until the release date (I posted the bio and review of Anton Roolaart exactly at 8:00 am of the date of release, even when Anton sent me the album several days before, the effect was great, we have the first OFFICIAL bio and review in the net), the pre-release reviews  have been discussed and accepted with limits.
 
I have received lots of albums before being released, specially from Symphonic bands that want to be included ASAP, so if by request of the band I have to write a review before the official release, I make sure to mention that the album was provided by the band, and to make the most impartial review I'm able to do..
 
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This album will be released in late November, but it already has a rating. 
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^^^ All those ratings should be nuked unless:

It's a pre-release special that's sanctioned by the band/label.
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The question remains how does an album get out in the open without the band somehow releasing it.
 
leaking is almost never accidental, more often completely deliberate. why should we care. let the bands involved themselves take steps to avoid leakings, we should be free to listen and review any album we have.
 
pre-release leakage, doesn't mean the album is any different than after release, and as the artist has an interest in leaking (why else would they leak it) why should we be concerned about it.
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I'd agree but tuxon but we do have to live in PA...and I thought it was against the rules to review albums before they are officially released.

And yes Ben, if someone would illegally obtain Agalloch they must be nukedNuke
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Can an admin get rid of the Agalloch rating please, the album is still over a month away from being released.

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Rating deleted. If the guy has an official preview copy, it would be if he would actually review it.
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Back when I managed a CD store, it was not unusual to get promo copies before the release date, for in-store play.  I don't know how they would feel about pre-release reviews, but I doubt any band or label wouldn't want the publicity.
 
I suppose a site policy on this should be decided upon & posted.
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The policy has been stated a few times. Essentially, we'll only accept reviews of genuine promotional copies prior to the release date, not leaks or pirate copies. Enforcement of this is of course not an exact science, but it generally works OK. 
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Thanks guys.
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AGALLOCH Marrow Of The Spirit ratings only

chronological order | showing rating only
Originally posted by Wikipedia Wikipedia wrote:

Marrow of the Spirit is the upcoming fourth album of the metal band Agalloch, set to be released on November 23, 2010, through Profound Lore Records


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^Unbridled enthusiasm.  I get one of their tenets for "masterpiece" is not that the album must hold up well over timeLOL
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There are 11 ratings for Agalloch's future release now. Some of them are * ratings from people who are evidently trying to push up other albums in the chart, like these guys:  ten.years.after (his only login was to give those ratings, he didn't come back) and tortoisetree.
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Points: 3578 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snobb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2010 at 05:08
On their label site it was announced yesterday this album is officially on sales from Friday,Nov 12.

http://www.profoundlorerecords.com/

So, all ratings (and even reviews - we have review)made before that date looks as not very legal?
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It would probably be best if people didn't add albums until they are on sale, obviously that is the root of these problems.
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The root is that people are allowed to rate or review once an album is added Smile every good thing has a bad counterpart ...


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^ thats what I'm saying, why don't we quit adding albums before they are on sale.
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We can't. Any member is entitled to add albums and there is no mechanism in place to check all these release dates.
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