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snobb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 20 2009 Location: Vilnius,LT,EU Status: Offline Points: 3584 |
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I think we should have the possibility to have new albums added before the date of release, every musical site do it,nothing is wrong with that, and it's good to be on the edge of newest information.
But I think the easiest (and possibly the best) way is just to confirm the rule no reviews/ratings could be edited before the day of official album's release. It will solve everything. I am sure it wouldn't work at once, but for everyone who is in charge it will be easy just to delete all reviews/ratings before the time, and step after step we will bring this in order. |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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You have to figure that the ratings/reviews of people who pirate and listen are either going to be blatantly fanboy (5 stars) or blatantly hater (1 star) reviews for the most part. It might just be best to put a disclaimer saying we don't try to filter out all reviews before the release date, so take them all with even more grain of salt.
Anyone who's looking up the album before the date will know to disregard one star reviews (even more so for ratings) if they have any common sense. And if there are well-thought out reviews of the album in any range that seem to be a fair appraisal of the album, there's really no reason for disregarding it anyway, before the release date or not. The chances of the tracks being wrong are not that high, and someone who couldn't figure that out before reviewing the album would probably not write a well thought-out review anyway. Disregard once more. Not very many people review from CD quality tracks, anyway, and even more people listen to album rips of various bitrate quality, and that doesn't change after a release date. The point is, we should filter for quality of reviews, before the release date especially. Just because an album was leaked 3 weeks before release doesn't mean that album isn't still a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 star record. |
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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Yes, but once the album is added, if you scroll down the page our site prompts you to review this album ...
Anybody else catching whats illogical about this scenario? Edited by Easy Money - November 13 2010 at 10:11 |
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Errm... yeah, right. That could work. Except that it looks a bit silly for 'The Ulmatimate Prog Rock Resource' to not be amongst the first to list an album on its site. Not very ultimate if others don't follow the same policy.
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ISKC Rock Radio
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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Thank you Jim, I have been saying this for a year or two now. If an album isn't supposed to be reviewed, then it shouldn't be up for review, how much common sense does that take.
We also wouldn't need to go around witch hunting for early additions, but when that first bogus review comes in that gets everyone's attention, then get rid of the addition. Either that or quit sweating the early reviews, because to tell you the truth, the way bands do promotions with their fan clubs these days, its hard to tell which early releases are legit or not. Edited by Easy Money - November 13 2010 at 09:49 |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17257 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Yes, I don't understand why we can't quickly solve this continuous problem. We either have a rule not to add albums until sale date (and quickly delete any that are added before the release date), or, we give up this other rule that says you can rate/review until that date. Two options....let's pick one and move on! Otherwise we'll driving Admin nuts with this same complaint until the end of time. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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Maybe if an album is added before it goes on sale we should delete the addition rather than wait for the inevitable reviews that will have to be deleted. Seems to me we are going about this backwards.
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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We can't. Any member is entitled to add albums and there is no mechanism in place to check all these release dates.
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ISKC Rock Radio
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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^ thats what I'm saying, why don't we quit adding albums before they are on sale.
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Rivertree ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Band Submissions Joined: March 22 2006 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 17649 |
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The root is that people are allowed to rate or review once an album is added
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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It would probably be best if people didn't add albums until they are on sale, obviously that is the root of these problems.
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snobb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 20 2009 Location: Vilnius,LT,EU Status: Offline Points: 3584 |
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On their label site it was announced yesterday this album is officially on sales from Friday,Nov 12.
http://www.profoundlorerecords.com/ So, all ratings (and even reviews - we have review)made before that date looks as not very legal? |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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There are 11 ratings for Agalloch's future release now. Some of them are * ratings from people who are evidently trying to push up other albums in the chart, like these guys:
ten.years.after (his only login was to give those ratings, he didn't come back) and tortoisetree.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17257 |
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^Unbridled enthusiasm. I get one of their tenets for "masterpiece" is not that the album must hold up well over time
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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AGALLOCH Marrow Of The Spirit ratings onlychronological order | showing rating only
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Any Colour You Like ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
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Thanks guys.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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The policy has been stated a few times. Essentially, we'll only accept reviews of genuine promotional copies prior to the release date, not leaks or pirate copies. Enforcement of this is of course not an exact science, but it generally works OK.
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Evolver ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5482 |
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Back when I managed a CD store, it was not unusual to get promo copies before the release date, for in-store play. I don't know how they would feel about pre-release reviews, but I doubt any band or label wouldn't want the publicity.
I suppose a site policy on this should be decided upon & posted.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Rating deleted. If the guy has an official preview copy, it would be if he would actually review it.
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Any Colour You Like ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
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Can an admin get rid of the Agalloch rating please, the album is still over a month away from being released.
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