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Points: 41 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 09:30
I have to go with Yes. Genesis's pop stuff still is pretty good, though.
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Points: 2060 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2010 at 05:01
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

It's a shame both bands went in a commercial direction and didn't stick to their progressive roots, but it really was an evolve or die era.  I think the Yes hits were more proggier though, but only by a slight margin.


AND they came back to their progressive roots in the 90's !


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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2010 at 06:06
Originally posted by Lozlan Lozlan wrote:

Ug.  I just threw up in my mouth a little.

I'd have to say Yes.  My Phil Collins hate is too deep to permit the alternative.
 
LOL - if you dont like it, just dont listen to it !
Remember Philly was a force as a drummer/vocalist in both Genesis & Brand X, not to mention a ton of studio work with Fripp, Eno. and a lot of others.
Everyone seemed to love him as a person, wich in my view sound cool.
 
At some point in his life, he decided that he was in a position to make it big on MTV, and that it would bring in a few 100 million $ or more, giving him access to some stuff that he would otherwise not be able to do,
like getting a private Jet.
 
I cant understand why that would make you hate him, im sure he is a nice person. 
You can choose to only listen to the great stuff he did, you dont have to go get his worst albums. 
 
I dont listen to 80's Genesis/Yes so i just dont care. 
Generaly I prefer the new wave/punk bands, when i dig into the 80's, But Fripp/Crimson & Eno/Byrne did nice things in the 80's.
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2010 at 06:16
Cool thread
 
 
I say Yes is better due to the awful Genesis 80s output, apart from Duke that is
 
However Big Generator is a definitive low point for Yes...
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Cool thread
 
 
I say Yes is better due to the awful Genesis 80s output, apart from Duke that is
 
However Big Generator is a definitive low point for Yes...

This sums it up for me too!
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Points: 1383 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2010 at 21:45
I really love 90125, and have for years. I have more recently been listening to Drama and love that too. Big Generator isn't great, but it has some decent songs.  I never cared for 80's Genesis that much.
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Points: 683 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2010 at 10:49
Duke and Abacab over Drama, 90125 instead of Genesis (shapes) and, Big Generator instead of Invisible touch.
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In my opinion:

Drama > Duke
90125 > Abacab
Big Generator < Shapes
Union > Invisible Touch

Yes wins in 1980s
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Points: 43731 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2016 at 02:50
Originally posted by Frayz Frayz wrote:

In my opinion:

Drama > Duke
90125 > Abacab
Big Generator < Shapes
Union > Invisible Touch

Yes wins in 1980s


Union was released in 1991. Geek

Yes wins here for me.
Drama, 90125 and Big Generator are much better than anything Genesis did in the 80s.
Duke is great but Drama was much better (I like it more that is)

Abacab, Genesis and Invisible Touch are so uneven, I love some songs surely; but I can listen to 90125 and Big Generator without skipping any song.
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Originally posted by Frayz Frayz wrote:

In my opinion:

Drama > Duke
90125 > Abacab
Big Generator < Shapes
Union > Invisible Touch

Yes wins in 1980s

For me, Duke is above them all, really good album, I find the odd good moment on Drama, 90125, Abacap, and I can easily do without all that follow from them both. 
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Points: 3574 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2016 at 18:38
I love Drama and Duke.
 
You can keep all the rest.
 
Must be a draw.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2016 at 18:44
interesting..

Drama= Duke... Yes's 3rd best album against Genesis's best... yeah.. Yes was a better group.. so technically a draw.

Abacab = 90125  both great albums

shapes... rules over Big Generator...

so giving it to Genesis... Yes was on the decline.. while Genesis was at their best.
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They both sucked.
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Points: 2223 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2016 at 19:55
I have never seen a choice that I cared less about, once you take Drama out of the equation.  I like Drama.  Otherwise meh.
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Points: 1063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2016 at 22:32
Genesis made some great songs in the 80's, even if they did some awful stuff like Ilegal Alien, Paperlate and all that. The Brazilian, Domino, Home by the Sea, Mama, Duchess, etc. are great songs.

But as far as prog bands going pop goes, Gentle Giant's "Giant for a Day" easily beats both for me.
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Points: 7951 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2016 at 16:35
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

They both sucked.
Yeah.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2016 at 17:25
by god I do wonder how some of you all got through life.. or the 80's... 

Illegal Alien was a great song.. yeah it isn't the Mona Lisa of music.. but it was a fun pop song and few were as good at that as Genesis. Perhaps I am the odd one here.. but I'd rather hear good pop than boring prog.
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Points: 13064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2016 at 17:35
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

by god I do wonder how some of you all got through life.. or the 80's...  

I escaped the 80s by ignoring it. Compact discs were out and I replaced my albums and then started buying up folk, jazz and blues releases, and rock albums I missed the first time around from the 60s and 70s.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2016 at 17:38
ok... you are excused then... LOLThumbs Up


so what is everyone else's excuse...
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Points: 2466 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2016 at 18:49
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ok... you are excused then... LOLThumbs Up


so what is everyone else's excuse...

I wasn't alive during that time lol.
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