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O666 
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Location: TEHRAN-IRAN
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 Posted: October 10 2010 at 06:49 |
 sohraab wrote:
i`m originally from Iran doing my PhD in Sabah. but i consider malaysia as my second country and i love it!
thx...
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Hi. Welcom sohraab. I'm very happy to see another IRANIAN prog lover in this site.Unfortunately its not a good start in PA. I undrestand you and I know what you say but some of PA's forum guys like to attack to new members. I must write in English in forum but if you want to connect with Persian, you can use "Member Control Panel" and "Privet Message". PA is the best prog site I have ever seen (IMO). You can enjoy in PA (like me) and I hope to see you in forum again.
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Paravion
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 05:06 |
^ A conception of prog as a genre that is 'created' by 'help' form individuals doesn't make sense to me. I'd suggest a more tentative use of the word 'fact' and consider the wise words of David Burne Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
(Talking Heads - Remain in Light - Crosseyed and Painless - 1980)
Edited by Paravion - October 10 2010 at 05:57
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sojourn
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Location: Australia
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 04:02 |
 egotistical w**kers
P.S. when you are talking about prog, Pink Floyd definately require special treatment, considering the fact that they helped create the genre?
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 03:30 |
I think the bio's are open to question. I wrote the bio's for Keith Emerson ,Greg Lake and Carl Palmer as solo artists but I wouldn't particularly want to go back and read them again as I didn't spend perhaps as much time and thought on them as I probably should. However I did spend a lot of time on their respective discographies with getting things like the dates and details of album releases correct which to me was more important than the introduction.
As others have said this site is really for people to leave opinions more than it is meant to be encyclopedic.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 16:21 |
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PA is not a site dedicated to including all the available information on bands, like an encyclopedia, but a site which enables fans to comment music albums in the form of reviews. Biographies are secondary in the case of famous bands (and can become essential only if the band is obscure). The beginners are made aware of the importance of certain bands by the high places that albums of those bands occupy in the charts.
If you want extened information, go on Wikipedia, they're an encyclopedia.
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sohraab
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Joined: October 09 2010
Location: Tehran, Iran
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:32 |
@Rivertree: really sorry that i came late... trapped in another musical argument, forgot to edit the headline... anyway thx! 
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Rivertree
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:03 |
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sohraab
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:44 |
thx my German friend for warm reply! and thx for help to edit! 
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Rivertree
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:18 |
sohraab wrote:
@ rivertree: of course tis shold not be any band`s fan site! did i talk like that?! but i just mentioned one case about PF as i consider them as a pioneer one... it`s appreciated if my topic will be reviewed by site admins, not as a hard critic but as a friendly suggestion! :)
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if you want to edit the topic header ... try to use 'post options/edit post' for the initial one and of course you're welcome here sohraab ... don't be irritated .. we're heavily disputing here all the way through
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sohraab
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:15 |
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i`m originally from Iran doing my PhD in Sabah. but i consider malaysia as my second country and i love it!
thx...
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Shevrzl
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:12 |
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Finally, another guy from Malaysia. Welcome my man! Hopefully we can get more proggers from this side of the world here.
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lazland
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:06 |
sohraab wrote:
@Lazland: thx for your suggestion!!!
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You are more than welcome. Peace to all in Malaysia 
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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sohraab
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 13:03 |
@Lazland: thx for your suggestion!!!
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:53 |
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Very few of the band bios are actually impressive and/or particularly in-depth...
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:47 |
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Quite a few of our artist bios need a lot of work. I agree that PF's could be longer, but it's not as embarrassing as the Tool and Neal Morse bios. I don't even like those bands at all but if I had the power I would still rewrite them because they annoy me so much.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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SMSM
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:39 |
I just appreciate that someone has taken their valuable time to write something about Pink Floyd or any other band.
I wouldn't get my nose out of joint and feel insulted if I didn't agree with it.
If it doesn't suit you, or you don't agree with it, there are other websites with similar opinions. No one is forcing you to read it.
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Myself, I manly read reviews looking for descriptions of music - One thing with PF I ask is does the particular recording hold up today as when it was released - I Just listened to Atom Heart Mother from 1970/1971- I appreciated it more today than when my musical maturity could not get Gentle Giant. The production still holds up, but the long (pyschedellica) instrumentals of the first and last songs do not, as PF and other prog bands went and did far better instrumental sections. The actual songs are still well appreciated and well done.
This review was probably not 100 words, but I believe it got the points across.
With any other PF and prog recording I would be reading to see it just average pop recording disguised as a prog recording like Genesis did from ABACAB, or some of Asia's work with prog musicians etc
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sohraab
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:34 |
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@ rivertree: of course tis shold not be any band`s fan site! did i talk like that?! but i just mentioned one case about PF as i consider them as a pioneer one... it`s appreciated if my topic will be reviewed by site admins, not as a hard critic but as a friendly suggestion! :)
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lazland
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:25 |
sohraab wrote:
ok i think maybe i was a litle wrong about PA! any open-minded person for critics?!
maybe i was a little tough but not deserved for such kind of huge reactions!!!
anway, i`m used to have such kind of responses!
nd i`m open for critics! welcome my friends! ;)
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Sohrab - stick around. You'll find it's great fun. You'll also learn a lot, including how to rub people up the right way 
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Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time!
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sohraab
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:21 |
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ok i think maybe i was a litle wrong about PA! any open-minded person for critics?!
maybe i was a little tough but not deserved for such kind of huge reactions!!!
anway, i`m used to have such kind of responses!
nd i`m open for critics! welcome my friends! ;)
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Rivertree
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Joined: March 22 2006
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:21 |
sorry - can't see any reason to claim that we are ignorant concerning Pink Floyd  this is a proper bio - could be more extended, okay - but please notice that we are not a PF fan site! the only point which is questionable what I can see is that statement about 'Animals' as an 'underrated gem' which is simply subjective. the team will discuss about this issue ...
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Pink Floyd's biography in Progarchives?!
and I thought you were defusing the topic headline after publishing this secret 