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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 04:08
Originally posted by garla1lh garla1lh wrote:

Peter Gabriel also has a great use of odd-time signature in Solsbury Hill. Most of the song is is 7/4 but he makes it flow so well, you don't even notice! Also I love Awaken by Yes where its 11/4 in the second section of the song!


Good choices here!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 04:09
Originally posted by Rabid Rabid wrote:

Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

The beginning of Indiscipline is pretty wild.  I've never even figured out what it is.  I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with playing on up beats, then down beats alternating.  But who the hell knows, and Bruford's crazy drumming doesn't help at all.  

Caravan does lots of 6/8 and 5/8 alternating, or it could be viewed as 11/8, either way it's awkward sounding.  
 
Bruford's a genius, imo....he can even make 4/4 sound strange. Surely the most unpredictable rock drummer ever.......he makes me gasp, sometimes !!  Shocked
 


I could not agree more!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 04:10
Originally posted by jsem jsem wrote:

Celestial Terrestrial Commuters by Mahavishnu Orchestra - 19/16


Good God, really??? No wonder I could never quite play along with it.....LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 04:13
Gentle Giant - Way of Life, Proclamation,
 
Genesis - the colony of Slipperman, the Supernatural Aneasthetist
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2010 at 13:51
First thing that comes to mind in Easy Money from KC, first two verses in 7/8. Might be an over-used time signature, but KC, especially Brufford open another dimension in rhythm. If I heard correctly Bill plays 4/4 over 7/8 or sth. ... Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2010 at 05:55
Originally posted by AbrahamSapien AbrahamSapien wrote:

First thing that comes to mind in Easy Money from KC, first two verses in 7/8. Might be an over-used time signature, but KC, especially Brufford open another dimension in rhythm. If I heard correctly Bill plays 4/4 over 7/8 or sth. ... Confused
sooooo cool! I love Bill's playing on the studio version.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 10:00
"At this very moment
 We have drummer a playing in 7/8,
Drummer b playing in 3/4,
The bass playing in 3/4,
The organ playing in 5/8,
The tambourine playing in 3/4,
And the alto-sax blowing his notes(nose?)."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:36
Opening riff is 9, 10, 11, 15, 7, 9, 7, 13, 6..


And that.. I don't even know. But gosh it's awesome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:45
I was going to mention part 2 of Long Piece No. 3

I really love odd time signatures but I have to say that I don't like when the thing doesn't flow... that's why I love Egg 
But now my branches suffer
And my leaves don't bear the glow
They did so long ago
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:57
Nothing wrong at all with odd time signatures, but the challenge is to make them make sense in terms of the composition. If they're put in just to be clever or complicated, then it's completely naff and has no credibility. If anything, odd time bars make it double difficult to get the balance of the song right, but then again, when it works, it works really well. It requires sensitivity as well as sense. Trouble is, too many prog bands don't have either.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:35
7/4 iz fur noobz
7/8 is where it's at baby!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:45
Originally posted by Mushroom Sword Mushroom Sword wrote:

7/4 iz fur noobz
7/8 is where it's at baby!
TWYZE AZ FAZT AZ YOOO!
NAH FOO IHMZ IZ PLAYN WIT UH FAZTER TEMPO FTW!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 23:17
Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:

Nothing wrong at all with odd time signatures, but the challenge is to make them make sense in terms of the composition. If they're put in just to be clever or complicated, then it's completely naff and has no credibility. If anything, odd time bars make it double difficult to get the balance of the song right, but then again, when it works, it works really well. It requires sensitivity as well as sense. Trouble is, too many prog bands don't have either.


Could you give some examples of what you see as a good odd time sequence?

A piece solely in 7/8 isn't unlike a piece solely in 4/4.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 10:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2011 at 02:35
Dream Theater is very much into this thing - almost any album have examples of odd time signatures
also Planet X  has more exotic examples

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2011 at 02:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2011 at 03:28
taken from wikipedia

Soundgarden also used unorthodox time signatures; while such songs as "Jesus Christ Pose", "4th Of July", and "Blow Up The Outside World" are in typical 4/4 time, "Outshined" is in 7/4, "My Wave" is in 5/4 and 4/4, "He Didn't" is in 5/4 and 6/4, "Black Hole Sun" is in 4/4 and 9/8, "The Day I Tried To Live" switches between 15/8 and 4/4, "Fell On Black Days" and "Somewhere" are in 6/4, "Never The Machine Forever" and "Black Rain" are in 9/8, "Beyond The Wheel", "Get On The Snake" and "New Damage" are in 9/4, "Face Pollution" uses 9/8 and 6/4, "Rusty Cage" is in 4/4 and 19/8, "Ugly Truth" is in 4/4 and 6/8, "Limo Wreck" alternates between 12/8, 15/8, 9/8, and 6/8, "Half" is in 5/8 with a measure of 11/16 before a 4/4 section, and "Spoonman" alternates between 7/4 choruses and 4/4 verses with a section in 6/4. Thayil has said that Soundgarden usually did not consider the time signature of a song until after the band had written it, and said that the use of odd meters was "a total accident."[102]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2011 at 13:44
I´d say French band Nil is pretty out there in regards to crazy time signatures ( sister bands Thork and Syrinx both included). Vespero and Don Caballero are up there as well.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2011 at 11:33
Klavierstruck IX by Karlheinz Stockhausen anybody? It's not rock, but there is a part of it supposedly in 142/8 time
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2011 at 11:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rJruc5iOGc 

Amazing time signature in this masterpiece


Edited by PabstRibbon - October 15 2011 at 11:42
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