Magma´s ideology controversy. Read this!

40footwolf.

Being selective with the truth and spreading untrue rumors about other human beings is not only morally repugnant, it is also in a moral sense, fascism. It is also illegal and may land you in the dock in most civilized countries.

Why does this sound uncannily like a potted description of practically every election campaign waged in every multi party democracy in the last 100 years ? You've also just described the tabloid sector of the fourth estate. All morally repugnant scumbags with a crass and venal agenda to be sure but fascists?, No. Slander and defamation can land you in the dock irrespective of what political beliefs you hold. BTW Denial of the Holocaust is punishable by law in Germany.

I repeat myself from above: Acting on rumors and then distributing them is fascism in the sense that you are not giving the accused any level of doubts, reason and human rights. You are repeating what the fascists did to the Jews leading up to the WW2. And you have the nerve to repeat what they did in the name of anti-fascism. That is double standards.

Not buying a Magma album based on your objection to one of the band member's (alleged) political beliefs is the same as planned genocide ? No it ain't and you're a lot smarter than that. It's called consumer choice.

Fascism is both a moral thing, like you do, and a type of running a country, like Mussolini, Franco and Hitler did. It is still the same moral thing though.

In any totalitarian regime the idea of pluralism is rejected and if Magma do have a covert fascist agenda (unproven) it is certainly ironic that it is our tolerant democratic climate that protects and allows them to articulate their beliefs unhindered by persecution. (So I agree with you up to a point here)

Do whatever you want to do as long as you don't disrespect and persecute others based on unsubstantiated rumors like you are doing here. Please don't buy any Magma albums and leave them in the shelves for those of us who respect basic human rights.  

And as you say: Fascists should be boycotted. Hence, I am now moving onto some less odious tasks in life. 

Sorry, but I have to clear up a misunderstanding.

As I said, I am refusing to purchase any pop albums based on the music and that is my consumer choice. Refusing to buy Magma albums based on dislikes is also consumer choice.

Spreading unsubstantiated rumors about other human beings is not consumer choice. It is malicious behavior, it is a criminal offense in many countries and it is the origin of Holocaust (who was the final product of 1500 years of unsubstantiated rumors). It is also double standards where basic human rights is denied the victim of these unsubstantiated rumors. It is the fascism the victim is accused for promoting. Hence double standards. Hence the lack of respect for other human beings by the one who spread unsubstantiated rumors and his/her cries about "you know nothing about fascism" as a mean of getting the attention away from the facts in this matter. And I am not referring to ExittheLemming.  

You simply does not go around and spread unsubstantiated rumors about other human  beings (and animals) in a forum like ProgArchives. What you are doing in this thread is comparable with this. That is the fact of the matter. 

But feel free to boycott French cheese, Magma albums and Levis jeans as much as you want for whatever reason as long as you don't spread unsubstantiated rumors in public and you therefore act within the moral standards and laws of democratic civilized countries. 

End of the matter.   

40footwolf wrote:  Christian Vander could deny these claims at any point. He has not.

I am sure Christian Vander has far better things to do in life than responding to unsubstantiated rumors made by people with their own agendas.