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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Yes me the person who refuses to make sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people, ascribing to them an extreme deregoatory stance, based on a single misunderstood two word term spoken by one person is the one who is reaching.
That makes sense.
I keep telling myself not to come back into this thread because it's so stupid, but I have poor self-control apparently.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37232 |
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What I would say is that if a group seems at-all tolerant of its nutjob extremists, then I am less tolerant of the group. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Let's go back to the KKK for a minute... Yes, it is a group that I have no problem characterizing as a bunch of nutjobs. The Tea Party may have some reasonable people in it, but is heavily populated by whackjobs. By the way, congratulations on your victory over Murkowski in Alaska. I didn't really care for her ass, but I'm not sure if her replacement will actually be an improvement. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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Every group has their nutjob extremists. Why do we tend to focus on them as though they are representative of the whole group?
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37232 |
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Here's an article that I found rather interesting: http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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You're reaching man.
Racism to the point of KKK ideology is rare but not as rare as it should be. I have no doubt some of those folks are in the ranks of the so-called Tea Party. But clearly the majority of the group are not there.
Though there would certainly be backlash against any Democrat that had taken the Presidency in these times (especially since the economy was going to tank regardless of incumbent) the strength of this group is almost certainly sharpened by Obama's race. At the same time, I don't think any other Democrat could have beaten John McCain (especially if he'd had a more reasonable running mate.) Some folks (regardless of party) are probably irked because of the idea that Obama was elected just because of the novelty of his race. Whether he likes it or not, race is his defining characteristic because he's first.
PC is an old term now, but there is some difficulty saying things out loud that are simply true.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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While your analysis is correct, I doubt most tea-partiers have ever considered that. I'm just saying... they can't spell, they probably can't make logical analyses.... ![]() ![]() Oh I kid the tea partiers they probably are not KKK white supremacists... but some of them sometimes make a good impression.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Lets follow the logic here:
1) Tea Partiers believe in a government which can act only within the confines of the Consitution.
2) The Consitution prohibits slavery and in general protects the rights of every individual.
3) Therefore the tea partiers believe in KKK style white supremecy which holds that people of a certain skin color are intrinsically inferior to another.
Hmm? Doesn't seem to work.
Really to paint people as KKK racists from the term white culture than one supposed leader of the moment said? That's absolutely ridiculous. Let's be sane here. There's plenty of grounds to attack Beck on if you so chose. He's a war-monger, he spreads irrational fear of Muslims, but don't put the guy in a white hood on horseback.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Acidophilus.
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
What do you think he was referring to?
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
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actually this "white culture" is really too close for comfort to the "white supremacy" theories of the KKK., which is no doubt what the Tea Party referred to.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Are y'all's necks naturally red or have you been out in in the sun too long with your baseball caps turned the right way? ![]() ![]() |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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I know you won't like them because they weren't around before 1989.
I won't like them because they're little racists. |
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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I'm a redneck. Most of my family are rednecks too. |
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dweet ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: August 31 2010 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Even the people who wear suites, have stupid haircuts and their own Fox News shows, but really are still rednecks. |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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Oh, don't worry. It will come when you least expect it. ![]() |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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![]() By the way, feel free to rib me for liking Olberman and Maddow, ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - August 31 2010 at 12:24 |
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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I like Glenn Beck and agree with a lot of what he says, but the White Culture thing is just silly. "white" is far too broad a category to be said to have a single culture. Now if you broke it up into little parts like, say, "deep south culture," "Scandinavian culture" etc. we might be in business. There is no "white culture" though, just as there is no "black culture."
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