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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 14:00
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
 
What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
 
What do you think he was referring to?
 
 
 
Lets follow the logic here:
 
1) Tea Partiers believe in a government which can act only within the confines of the Consitution.
 
2) The Consitution prohibits slavery and in general protects the rights of every individual.
 
3) Therefore the tea partiers believe in KKK style white supremecy which holds that people of a certain skin color are intrinsically inferior to another.
 
Hmm? Doesn't seem to work.
 
Really to paint people as KKK racists from the term white culture than one supposed leader of the moment said? That's absolutely ridiculous. Let's be sane here. There's plenty of grounds to attack Beck on if you so chose. He's a war-monger, he spreads irrational fear of Muslims, but don't put the guy in a white hood on horseback.
 
You're reaching man.
 
Racism to the point of KKK ideology is rare but not as rare as it should be. I have no doubt some of those folks are in the ranks of the so-called Tea Party. But clearly the majority of the group are not there.
 
Though there would certainly be backlash against any Democrat that had taken the Presidency in these times (especially since the economy was going to tank regardless of incumbent) the strength of this group is almost certainly sharpened by Obama's race. At the same time, I don't think any other Democrat could have beaten John McCain (especially if he'd had a more reasonable running mate.) Some folks (regardless of party) are probably irked because of the idea that Obama was elected just because of the novelty of his race. Whether he likes it or not, race is his defining characteristic because he's first.
 
PC is an old term now, but there is some difficulty saying things out loud that are simply true.
 
Yes me the person who refuses to make sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people, ascribing to them an extreme deregoatory stance, based on a single misunderstood two word term spoken by one person is the one who is reaching.
 
That makes sense.
 
 
I keep telling myself not to come back into this thread because it's so stupid, but I have poor self-control apparently.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:55
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Every group has their nutjob extremists.  Why do we tend to focus on them as though they are representative of the whole group?

Let's go back to the KKK for a minute...
Yes, it is a group that I have no problem characterizing as a bunch of nutjobs.  The Tea Party may have some reasonable people in it, but is heavily populated by whackjobs.  By the way, congratulations on your victory over Murkowski in Alaska.  I didn't really care for her ass, but I'm not sure if her replacement will actually be an improvement.


What I would say is that if a group seems at-all tolerant of its nutjob extremists, then I am less tolerant of the group.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:53
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Every group has their nutjob extremists.  Why do we tend to focus on them as though they are representative of the whole group?

Let's go back to the KKK for a minute...
Yes, it is a group that I have no problem characterizing as a bunch of nutjobs.  The Tea Party may have some reasonable people in it, but is heavily populated by whackjobs.  By the way, congratulations on your victory over Murkowski in Alaska.  I didn't really care for her ass, but I'm not sure if her replacement will actually be an improvement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:44
Every group has their nutjob extremists.  Why do we tend to focus on them as though they are representative of the whole group?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:43
Here's an article that I found rather interesting: http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:38
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
 
What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
 
What do you think he was referring to?
 
 
 
Lets follow the logic here:
 
1) Tea Partiers believe in a government which can act only within the confines of the Consitution.
 
2) The Consitution prohibits slavery and in general protects the rights of every individual.
 
3) Therefore the tea partiers believe in KKK style white supremecy which holds that people of a certain skin color are intrinsically inferior to another.
 
Hmm? Doesn't seem to work.
 
Really to paint people as KKK racists from the term white culture than one supposed leader of the moment said? That's absolutely ridiculous. Let's be sane here. There's plenty of grounds to attack Beck on if you so chose. He's a war-monger, he spreads irrational fear of Muslims, but don't put the guy in a white hood on horseback.
 
You're reaching man.
 
Racism to the point of KKK ideology is rare but not as rare as it should be. I have no doubt some of those folks are in the ranks of the so-called Tea Party. But clearly the majority of the group are not there.
 
Though there would certainly be backlash against any Democrat that had taken the Presidency in these times (especially since the economy was going to tank regardless of incumbent) the strength of this group is almost certainly sharpened by Obama's race. At the same time, I don't think any other Democrat could have beaten John McCain (especially if he'd had a more reasonable running mate.) Some folks (regardless of party) are probably irked because of the idea that Obama was elected just because of the novelty of his race. Whether he likes it or not, race is his defining characteristic because he's first.
 
PC is an old term now, but there is some difficulty saying things out loud that are simply true.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:38
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
 
What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
 
What do you think he was referring to?
 
 
 
Lets follow the logic here:
 
1) Tea Partiers believe in a government which can act only within the confines of the Consitution.
 
2) The Consitution prohibits slavery and in general protects the rights of every individual.
 
3) Therefore the tea partiers believe in KKK style white supremecy which holds that people of a certain skin color are intrinsically inferior to another.
 
Hmm? Doesn't seem to work.
 
Really to paint people as KKK racists from the term white culture than one supposed leader of the moment said? That's absolutely ridiculous. Let's be sane here. There's plenty of grounds to attack Beck on if you so chose. He's a war-monger, he spreads irrational fear of Muslims, but don't put the guy in a white hood on horseback.

While your analysis is correct, I doubt most tea-partiers have ever considered that. I'm just saying... they can't spell, they probably can't make logical analyses.... TongueWink

Oh I kid the tea partiers they probably are not KKK white supremacists... but some of them sometimes make a good impression. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 13:20
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
 
What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
 
What do you think he was referring to?
 
 
 
Lets follow the logic here:
 
1) Tea Partiers believe in a government which can act only within the confines of the Consitution.
 
2) The Consitution prohibits slavery and in general protects the rights of every individual.
 
3) Therefore the tea partiers believe in KKK style white supremecy which holds that people of a certain skin color are intrinsically inferior to another.
 
Hmm? Doesn't seem to work.
 
Really to paint people as KKK racists from the term white culture than one supposed leader of the moment said? That's absolutely ridiculous. Let's be sane here. There's plenty of grounds to attack Beck on if you so chose. He's a war-monger, he spreads irrational fear of Muslims, but don't put the guy in a white hood on horseback.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 08:26
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
 
What makes you say that? Beck seems to be more of a showman than anything and racist undertones, just enough but not too much, probably plays very well with his audience.
 
What do you think he was referring to?
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 07:21
Actually there's no doubt to that being not what the Tea party was referring to. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2010 at 03:18
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Thank you for putting "black" into quotes.  There is no such thing as human "racial" purity.  Either you're human or you are sub-human.  Sub humans being the ones who look down on others who are culturally or ethnically different than they are.
 
actually this "white culture" is really too close for comfort to the "white supremacy" theories of the KKK., which is no doubt what the Tea Party referred to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 17:21
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by dweet dweet wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Beck's views are very coloured, but he referenced the wrong colour. Instead of white culture, I think he meant redneck culture.

Even the people who wear suites, have stupid haircuts and their own Fox News shows, but really are still rednecks.


I'm a redneck.  Most of my family are rednecks too.

Are y'all's necks naturally red or have you been out in in the sun too long with your baseball caps turned the right way? TongueLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 17:20
I know you won't like them because they weren't around before 1989.

I won't like them because they're little racists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:37
Really?

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:34
Originally posted by dweet dweet wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Beck's views are very coloured, but he referenced the wrong colour. Instead of white culture, I think he meant redneck culture.

Even the people who wear suites, have stupid haircuts and their own Fox News shows, but really are still rednecks.


I'm a redneck.  Most of my family are rednecks too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:32
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Beck's views are very coloured, but he referenced the wrong colour. Instead of white culture, I think he meant redneck culture.

Even the people who wear suites, have stupid haircuts and their own Fox News shows, but really are still rednecks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 12:25
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I like Glenn Beck and agree with a lot of what he says
  Aww, man, I always suspected you were a little messed up. LOL

By the way, feel free to rib me for liking Olberman and Maddow, Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 12:24
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

I like Glenn Beck and agree with a lot of what he says
  Aww, man, I always suspected you were a little messed up. LOL

By the way, feel free to rib me for liking Olberman and Maddow, Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 12:19
I like Glenn Beck and agree with a lot of what he says, but the White Culture thing is just silly. "white" is far too broad a category to be said to have a single culture. Now if you broke it up into little parts like, say, "deep south culture," "Scandinavian culture" etc. we might be in business. There is no "white culture" though, just as there is no "black culture."
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