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b_olariu 
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 Posted: June 10 2010 at 01:57 |
I think is inpossible, I mean, over 20.000 albums   . I listen to prog music for about 15 years and I gatherd in my collection about 3650 albums. And of course is another thing, half of the albums from here, I'm not intrested, are not my kind of music I'm listning often, so I may never know all of them, and I'm not intrestend to know all of them, what is the purpose to know all of them. If someone listen 3-5 albums a day, every day, he needs almost 20 years to reach the number that is today here in PA, aproximativly. So, I don't see anyone could do it 
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npjnpj
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 02:44 |
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Interestingly horrifying idea.
Say that we do have a pretty long lifespan of another hundred years or so:
As I listen to music for pleasure, there are just too many albums here that I woudn't enjoy.
If you say 'possible to know', do you actually mean that or do you actually mean 'listen to at least once'? I'd probably need at least! three listens on average to get to know an album.
But I do like the idea in general: Would it be (slightly) more practical to suggest one or at most two albums from each prog artist, the one(s) judged to be most typical?
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 03:01 |
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At first I was gunna say no, because there will always be new albums coming out.
But then I realized it was on PA....
Technically...it could be done. Drop your job, family, everything. Spend all day every day listening to albums. I mean constantly. Eventually you'll get everyone and if you keep up pace you should listen more than they're added.
Good luck with that
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 03:33 |
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A lifetime achievement but not a viable goal to hear EVERY album - however every album of your favourite artists - thats acheivable and thats what i am going for.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 04:45 |
Hehe :-) nice to see so many interesting opinions in this thread. Even those I don't agree with too much.
Threads like this are good to make you think, aren't they ? Of course, I don't want to do this, I'm not that foolish. But I certainly want to hear as much as possible. Everyone around me says that I won't have so much time to listen when I'll be older. But if music will still be one of my main hobbies, I will have time, because I won't like to abandon music.
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Falx
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 04:53 |
I think I could manage every album, if they were played in Bun-O-Vision...  =F=
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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 12:54 |
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50+25+12.5+6.25+3.125+ ... about 10 years ago, I've first tried to reach 100. But I wasn't successful, of course. Few years ago, I understood why. Of course, I wasn't thinking about it all the time, but it reminded me this issue.
When I count average number of new albums I listen every day, I get number 3. About. Sometimes I listen only to new albums, but often I do listen albums I know and that I do know what I can expect. Sometimes I'm too tired to be adventurous.
So 3 x 365 = roughly 1000 (because it's actually less than 3), so about one hundred albums per year. When we suppose that I have new material coming by, but this is true, as I do have my own big collection, my father's collection, albums that people are sending me because they want me to review their music and also last, but not least, I have friends who likes Prog so I can listen music at their place.
I'm 21, I will live next 60 years at least I hope. Supposing that I will keep this pace and will be interested in Prog music when I'll be UP TO 80 years old grandpa (and I really hope I will be like that), this means about
60.000 albums I will hear in my life. However, the more albums I will know, the more "repeated listens" I will have, so the average pace of little bit less than 3 albums per day will be 2 albums and finally maybe even 1 album.
I was really thinking about that for a long time.
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:17 |
It would be possible; the problem is that albums keep getting uploaded all the time, and new artists as well.
If you even devoted a summer to just listening to every album and reviewing them all, I'm sure you could have about 1000-3000 new Reviews (depending on how much you slept) 
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notesworth
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:08 |
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If somebody cracked into ProgArchives and deleted everything except the most popular albums, lots of people would hear every album on the site. Of course, that would be stupid.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:20 |
 Conor Fynes wrote:
It would be possible; the problem is that albums keep getting uploaded all the time, and new artists as well.
If you even devoted a summer to just listening to every album and reviewing them all, I'm sure you could have about 1000-3000 new Reviews (depending on how much you slept) |
I like this kind of insane ideas. Some albums has 40 minutes, some up to 80. Some are double LP's and some double CD's. I think that average length of album would be 60 minutes, one hour. 18 hours, 18 albums. Then 6 hours of sleep. About 1500 reviews in two months (July-August), but I would soon run out of ideas.
Solution - bribe all Special Collaborators, so no new band will be added. :-)
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squire4001
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 20:25 |
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well...mmm it could be possible if you have a lot of time (listen music, discover bands), but its not impossible is just quite hard... there are many gems that i havent listened and discovered, we just need more time as well.
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Prog´ everyday in every way of your life including music!
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Textbook
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 00:44 |
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Marty: You seem to review a lot faster than many other people so maybe you've got a better chance than most. Rather than EVERY ALBUM though, which I think is completely out of reach, you could aim for EVERY ARTIST, trying to cover at least one album by every act on the site. That's a lot more doable.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 00:55 |
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Marty, you could always try and make this profitable by writing one of those "1000 Albums You Must Read My Descriptions Of Before You Die" type books.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 01:30 |
Some years ago HT (An ex member of the team who left PA) accepted the challenge of getting at least one album of each band in Symphonic.
Except 3 or 4 bands that I can't find anywhere, I have achieved this (not even all the albums, at least one from each band), and the conclusions are this:
1.- It's damn hard
2.- I discovered a lot of good bands
3.- I wasted a lot of money in many crappy albums
4.- I hardly remember well 25% of them if even
5.- I won't even try to have all the albums in Symphonic.
So, don't try to kow each and every album here unless:
- You are incredibly wealthy
- You have a lot of time to waste
- You plan to live until you are 250 years old, being that:
- Llistening music 8 hours a day, you would need more or less 13 years just to listen each album once.
- At least 50 years more to get every album (Some are almost impossible to get).and
- Probably 150 years more to know well each and every album.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 11 2010 at 01:32
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trackstoni
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 01:42 |
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Life is Still Running , as far as we can Get with PA'S Largest Progressive Database , will be more than satisfying , cause the main issue is to carry on with Progressive as long as it takes !
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stonebeard
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 01:48 |
Textbook wrote:
Marty, you could always try and make this profitable by writing one of those "1000 Albums You Must Read My Descriptions Of Before You Die" type books. |
Those books are always so self-indulgent and dumb, yet I always stop and glance to see what they say about Yes and King Crimson. Then I usually get pissed and call it trash.
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 01:58 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Some years ago HT (An ex member of the team who left PA) accepted the challenge of getting at least one album of each band in Symphonic.
Except 3 or 4 bands that I can't find anywhere, I have achieved this (not even all the albums, at least one from each band), and the conclusions are this:
1.- It's damn hard
2.- I discovered a lot of good bands
3.- I wasted a lot of money in many crappy albums
4.- I hardly remember well 25% of them if even
5.- I won't even try to have all the albums in Symphonic.
So, don't try to kow each and every album here unless:
- You are incredibly wealthy
- You have a lot of time to waste
- You plan to live until you are 250 years old, being that:
- Llistening music 8 hours a day, you would need more or less 13 years just to listen each album once.
- At least 50 years more to get every album (Some are almost impossible to get).and
- Probably 150 years more to know well each and every album.
Iván |
Your comment makes me think: How many possibilities a good symphonic prog band has to be carefully listened even by an expert ?
I think PA is doing a service to those bands with less than 20 reviews but over 4 stars and to those listeners who can save the 25% of their budget just avoiding 1 and 2 stars albums.
Long life to PA
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 02:11 |
stonebeard wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Marty, you could always try and make this profitable by writing one of those "1000 Albums You Must Read My Descriptions Of Before You Die" type books. |
Those books are always so self-indulgent and dumb, yet I always stop and glance to see what they say about Yes and King Crimson. Then I usually get pissed and call it trash. |
That one for movies was pretty good, though.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 02:27 |
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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 05:29 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Your comment makes me think: How many possibilities a good symphonic prog band has to be carefully listened even by an expert ?
I think PA is doing a service to those bands with less than 20 reviews but over 4 stars and to those listeners who can save the 25% of their budget just avoiding 1 and 2 stars albums.
Long life to PA |
This isn't that easy. We can say that there probably won't be much Prog in album with rating 2.3 (I reviewed one yesterday), or 2.7 (I also reviewed one yesterday). They can be Pop. I don't like pop and so I don't think I will like such albums. But what about if it's album that is Heavy Metal, Hard Rock, or simple Folk. I like these styles, so even it won't be Prog, I will enjoy these albums. And believe me, there are such albums. :-) nothing is easy.
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