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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 13:29
From Nate Dogg to Bo Hansson. My kids have been growing up on prog for the past 22 years. Last week I came home and the 21 year old and 16 Year old were playing Rush - Roll The Bones. What a pleasure, Pink Floyd or Mike Oldfield arguably their favourites, but they love current music Unhappy such as their generation and non prog like Van Morrison, Simple Minds, Waterboys etc. My wife and I taught them wellWink On the flip side they have introduced me to some decent stuff occasionallySmile
Early Genesis? They sing along to it.......................

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 13:30
Originally posted by migdal migdal wrote:

Once I was a teenager too [in the '70is.] and i was listening prog.rock,I remember Genesis "Live" was my
 favorite,but I was listening and Krautrock like Can - "Ege Bamyasi",Amon Duul II - "Wolf City" and Faust "IV"
When I was start  listening music (because of my older sister) with The beatles ,The Rolling Stones,The Who,
Easy Beats,T,Rex.....(and I was born in a socialistic ex.Yugoslavia,now I live in Republic of Macedonia),so there is no rules.....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 14:00
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

My nephew (6 years) has already his favourites:
 
1.- Selling England by the Pound
2.- Dark Side of the Moon
3.- A night at the Opera
4.- The War of the Worlds
 
I don't know if he fully understands them, but he lis listens this CD's and watchs the DVD's all day long.
 
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Actually, I don't know if it is such a good idea to teach prog at this age. When he/she'll grow to his teenage mutiny he/she most certainly will turn back to this music, as it's gonna link with a childhood :/
"Ffffaaahhh, seeko baaaaaa
Neeeeee toe, kare lo yeahhh
Sa sa sa sa saa! Fssss
Drrrrrrrrr bo ki!
Rapateeka! do go taaaam
Rapateeka! do go tchaa"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 14:02
Idk why me and a couple of fellow proggies my age can't really get into genesis I really don't know why but they don't grip me I like them but I don't really listen to much of them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:51
Originally posted by Wiktor Hatif Wiktor Hatif wrote:

Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I ask this as my 13 yr old daughter asked me for some music to listen to as she settles down to sleep, as she knows i am way into music. I gave her Genesis' "Selling England By The Pound".


WTF? How the hell "Selling England By The Pound" is good for the sleep time? It's rather noisy. I would give her "Islands" by King Crimson or Gentle Giant's "Acquiring The Taste" - these are very sleepy. From Genesis I would take "Trespass", but "Selling England By The Pound"? Bad choice...
 
Selling England by the Pound ≠ Noisy
Ruins or Merzbow = Noisy
 
However, I'm fifteen and I'm way into free jazz, contemporary music, musique actuelle, fusion, Rock in Opposition, Zeuhl and progressive music...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:56
Im a teenager and I enjoy early Genesis, end of discussion Cool

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:56
I'm 16 and i love genesis. I started when I was 15 so i'm kinda  a newbie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 16:56
I've been listening to Prog since I was a little boy, though my first music "love" was alt. rock and hard rock, then slowly started to appreciate Prog more and more and with the arrival to this site... well... you know..
 
I started to 'really' appreciate Prog when I was 14, now I'm 16.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:01
Absolutely. I'm a teenager and PG-era Genesis is some of my favorite music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:09
No. It's completely and utterly impossible for anyone who under the age of 20 to wield the intellectual and emotional maturity required to appreciate the otherworldly textures of The Fountain Of Salmacis or the morally infused rock of The Musical Box. If you fall into this unfortunate and loutish group, your time would be better spent familiarising yourself with We Can't Dance or, if you're feeling bold, perhaps even Invisible Touch. Duke shouldn't be approached before 15 and Wind & Wuthering is a bit thematically complicated for an underdeveloped psyche.

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Of course teenagers can enjoy early Genesis... next?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:19
Absolutely not, ignore all of the teenagers at PA who claim to enjoy such music and at other prog sites and discount people such as myself who  listened to such music when they were teens and earlier and remember really liking it back then, but are really false memories, cause they don't count. It's completely delusional.  The only music teenagers can really enjoy is Magma, Univers Zero and the like.

To put it in teen-speak, wurdah Genesis! ;)

Seriously, my daughter's been enjoying some music I like since she was very small, she's now six, as long as it's not horrifyingly bizarre.  She likes Magma and William Sheller.  My son's favourite (three) is a Jean-Paul Vannier track which he calls the "uh-uh' song and often requests it.

I just played my daughter and son some early Genesis, "Fireside Song" off Genesis first, and they didn't seem to like it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:29
OK after reading some of the posts in this thread, teenagers should be forbidden. TongueLOL
Of course anytime you forbid a teenager from doing something, you know what's likely to happen. Wink


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 07 2010 at 17:33
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 18:42
To answer your question: Yes, very much so.  I'm an 18 year old male and I've been listening to Gabriel-era Genesis for a few years.  They're definitely my favorite Symphonic Progressive band.  Foxtrot and SEbtP are some of my favorite all-time albums.  Supper's Ready became a favorite of mine after I listened to it enough to memorize the lyrics! Thumbs Up... Radio music utterly dreadful...
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:03
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

No. It's completely and utterly impossible for anyone who under the age of 20 to wield the intellectual and emotional maturity required to appreciate the otherworldly textures of The Fountain Of Salmacis or the morally infused rock of The Musical Box. If you fall into this unfortunate and loutish group, your time would be better spent familiarising yourself with We Can't Dance or, if you're feeling bold, perhaps even Invisible Touch. Duke shouldn't be approached before 15 and Wind & Wuthering is a bit thematically complicated for an underdeveloped psyche.

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Of course teenagers can enjoy early Genesis... next?
LOL
 
One o fthe funniest posts here.
 
 
Yes I am surprised at so many teens here. i shouldnt be but just cos i am an old dude doesnt mean we all are. Oh well.  continue the conversation peolpe; its fascinating that this thread took off. i thought it was a personal thing but it seems we all have something to say on the topic. i didnt expect 4 pages on it but i am delighted it sparked some interest..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:10
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Absolutely not, ignore all of the teenagers at PA who claim to enjoy such music and at other prog sites and discount people such as myself who  listened to such music when they were teens and earlier and remember really liking it back then, but are really false memories, cause they don't count. It's completely delusional.  The only music teenagers can really enjoy is Magma, Univers Zero and the like.

To put it in teen-speak, wurdah Genesis! ;)

Seriously, my daughter's been enjoying some music I like since she was very small, she's now six, as long as it's not horrifyingly bizarre.  She likes Magma and William Sheller.  My son's favourite (three) is a Jean-Paul Vannier track which he calls the "uh-uh' song and often requests it.

I just played my daughter and son some early Genesis, "Fireside Song" off Genesis first, and they didn't seem to like it.
Ok well as you are only 10 years old according to your profileLOL I will talk to you in understandable english
 
early Genesis = very good
Post Gabriel Genesis up to Duke = satisfactory
Post Duke up to last album = very bad
 
seriously I would not play Magma in front of my kids as they would run for cover and i would get the LOOK from my wife. Shocked But she likes Collins, so we have some mutual agreement here that our kids could listen to Genesis without argument so I am going for that.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:15
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Absolutely. I'm a teenager and PG-era Genesis is some of my favorite music.
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I am starting to feel very old. i wonder if i am the oldest around here? oh well, look at me as a father figure for prog.LOL
 
As a teen I can only remeber Sweet, Kiss, and Floyd. I had The Wall, that is definite and I rmember flicking thru the war of the Worlds booklet - vinyl was king and I was surrounded by vinyl, the album covers were all over the floor and I spent hours studying them. Now look at me, a hopeless proghead!Clap
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:17
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

seriously I would not play Magma in front of my kids as they would run for cover and i would get the LOOK from my wife. Shocked   
 
Seriously, I don't see why Magma couldn't be listened to by children. It is one of the best bands ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 19:45
I enjoyed reading everybody's posts. 
But I just remembered that my young pre-teen daughter loved "sherazade" by renaisance.  I highly reccomend that. She also loved Jacula when she was younger because of the Ghoolish cover. For some reason she was in a weird mood. To get her to stop crying, we had to tell her that someone is getting killed on tv. 
Considering Genesis: The first song I thought of was "harold the barrel".  Then I remembered the sad ending.  Their are a lot of Genesis songs that have the story telling quality.  I thinks it helps explaining the song ahead of time. 
Also "the snow goose" if you have the actual story behind it.  I remember seeing a made for tv movie of it.  I can't recall if it was from English tv or not.  Also I would think the cool vocals that Gentle Giant would do might remind them of "row, row, row your boat"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:06
I'm 17 and i've been listening to Genesis for about 2 years now, so yes, they can Smile I've got everything from their debut through Wind & Wuthering.

Just from my own experiences and observations, it's around age 13-15 that kids will start to develop their musical tastes beyond whatever their parents listen to or what's on the radio. Typically you get those who like classic rock, those who like metal, those who like pop/hip-hop, and in rare cases those who like prog (the cool ones Wink).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2010 at 20:06

Heh, my relationships with Genesis have been weird, to say least. I even remember writing some bashing posts on this forum LOL All problems stemmed ever since I first listened to Foxtrot. I couldn't really get into that whole Supper's Ready thing, which I considered (and still do) one of the most over-rated songs in the history of prog. That got me quite an aversion to Genesis' music. Then, bit-by-bit, I started to sink my toe again in their music: First "Selling England", then "Trespass" and it went on and on...

Now Genesis is one of my most favorites :)

So my advice: if you wan't to get a teenage girl to listen to Genesis, put either something less complicated ("Dusk", "After The Ordeal") or something overtly romantic ("One For The Vine").

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