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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2010 at 08:00
Scott:

I share your fondness for Rush's mid-80s albums. They tend to be under-appreciated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2010 at 08:41
Thanks Rod.

I think it goes back to the who prog/not prog debate, and my gut tells me that the guys who are in their 50s and up regard Howe-era Yes, Gabriel-era Genesis, and King Krimson as the only "real prog" whereas I grew up in the '80s and was into Collins-era Genesis and Rabin-era Yes long before I grew to appreciate the "old" prog. 

My first Rush album was Signals, though I had seen the video for "Limelight" on MTV and knew it was from the Exit Stage Left concert... but I traded Signals for a cool pair of roller skates that my friend had at the time (hey, I was 12 or so, what did I know?). It wasn't until Power Windows that Rush really grabbed my attention and kept it. Today, I still can't stand the first two Rush albums -- Geddy hadn't yet learned to sing :-p.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2010 at 15:13
Hi, Scott:

YOU TRADED SIGNALS FOR ROLLER SKATES!!!??? 

OK, now that I've got that out of my system ... LOL

There does seem to be a bit of a divide on who thinks what is prog and isn't, and I suppose it might be largely generational (see below). My own experience is similar to yours if a tad earlier. My first Rush album--and second album overall--was A Farewell to Kings, which I got at the age of 12, on 8-track if you can believe it. I've since owned it on vinyl, cassette, and CD as well. It largely defined for me what rock music was, and I admit that when Rush's style began to seriously shift in the early 80s I was at first a little disappointed. What kept me listening was the simple fact that many of the songs on Signals spoke so directly to my own experience at the time. Then, once I had given the music itself a fair chance, and accepted that no artist can stay the same and yet remain an artist, I found that the new direction was very exciting and, as you said yourself, unlike anything else happening at the time.

As for the other bands you mention, I admit to having liked "Owner of a Lonely Heart" since the first time I heard it, though I do find that early Yes holds my attention more consistently. And as for Genesis, my own introduction was similar to yours, specifically ABACAB. I only discovered Gabriel-era Genesis a few years later. My own take on that band is that the departure of Hacket had a far stronger impact on their music than the departure of Gabriel did. This line of thought it off-topic for this thread, though, so I will call it quits here.

Best wishes,

Rod
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2010 at 17:49
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Rush are progressive in every sense of the word - continually moving on and reinventing themselves.
 
Um... that's ONE sense of the word Wink
 

 
It's more to do with Lazland's misperception - Prog bands don't necessarily move on and re-invent themselves - but they might.
 
The inherent progressive nature of Prog rock is completely intertwined with any ideals of literal progression that a band might have.
 


Mark, I think there is a difference between prog & progressive. My take on this was to do with the latter word. Bands can, of course, be prog without being progressive. Sorry, this is probably appropriate for another thread, but I meant that Rush are a truly progressive band, rather than pure prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2010 at 10:33
Is Rush a prog band?  No, of course not.  They're a flamenco dance band.
Also, Genesis plays death metal and King Crimson is a rapper.

Journey, on the other hand, is full-blown symphonic prog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2010 at 16:42
 I think they qualify. They are definitely a difficult band to pigeonhole in any one genre, but they did put out a lot of music I would call prog. 
 I wonder how would most of you would categorize side 2 of Moving Pictures (not to mention Tom Sawyer and YYZ) ?
 What I find interesting is that their more recent albums (Counterparts on ) were harder than anything they did in the past (more alternative and grungy), up until 2007s Snakes and Arrows...which was named as one of Classic Rock Magazine's "10 essential progressive rock albums of the decade". Big smile
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