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BaldFriede 
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 Posted: March 19 2010 at 15:20 |
 Catcher10 wrote:
Ok I just $h*t my pants several times reading the posts..GOD that's funny!!! 
Some are getting the terms "prog", "hard rock", heavy metal" confused. Heavy metal in the sense of DP, I think yes. Heavy metal in the sense of Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden...no.
They play a style of "hard rock"....yes. But to the definition of progressive rock as defined here in the PA, most certainly Rush are a prog band. All the attributes defined in this wonderful website are met by Rush with regard to playing style, writing/topics and use of instruments.
Ohh and long songs are there too.....  |
The Stranglers also meet all the attributes; in some respect (complexity) they even overqualify, yet they are not in here.
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 15:31 |
^ There are a lot not in here I would think some would say.
The Stranglers, heavy to punk and new wave?? I don't own anything by them...can't comment much though on them.
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presdoug
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 15:58 |
TheGazzardian wrote:
It's just music  |
you have got me thinking-i can see that sometimes, some of us (including me)can attach too much importance or seriousness to our labeling-you are right, its all music- some will like it, and some won't-such is life
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:27 |
no they r a potato 
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:34 |
A papaya is more progy than a potato!? (I thought it was with an 'e' on the end..no?)
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:38 |
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nice way to change the thread
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starchild
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:38 |
For a long time i thought Rush is considered to be in the same platform as bands like Yes, King Crimson or Genesis. So i was just checking DDD prog forum, where Rush isnt considered to be among the greats when it comes to Progressive Rock.
Just wondering, is it the same with this place too?? if so, whats the reason? :)
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rdtprog
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:46 |
Rush is a prog-hard-art-rock band and more... 
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Raff
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:50 |
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
nice way to change the thread |
Yes, especially a thread started by someone with 2 posts, who mysteriously disappeared afterwards  ...
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Catcher10
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:52 |
Raff wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
nice way to change the thread |
Yes, especially a thread started by someone with 2 posts, who mysteriously disappeared afterwards...
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Raff
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 16:53 |
Indeed !
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Tony R
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 18:47 |
When did Deep Purple ever record anything like Hemispheres, 2112, Xanadu, Fountain Of Lamneth, Cygnus x-1, La Villa Strangiato, The Trees, Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, The Camera Eye, Bytor & The Snow Dog? Compare and contrast Red Barchetta with Highway Star or Spirit Of Radio with Smoke On The Water... Some people continue to rewrite history and confuse "Prog Rock" with progressive music. Rush were Prog Rock, they were just harder edged than most. Even worse some people who weren't even 10 when Rush released A Farewell To Kings are lecturing us on what "certain people in the 70s were calling Prog and what they were calling Heavy Rock". How does that work? 
Edited by Tony R - March 19 2010 at 18:49
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J-Man
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 19:36 |
 I HAD to post that in this thread....
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micky
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 19:42 |
Tony R wrote:
When did Deep Purple ever record anything like Hemispheres, 2112, Xanadu, Fountain Of Lamneth, Cygnus x-1, La Villa Strangiato, The Trees, Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, The Camera Eye, Bytor & The Snow Dog? Compare and contrast Red Barchetta with Highway Star or Spirit Of Radio with Smoke On The Water...
Some people continue to rewrite history and confuse "Prog Rock" with progressive music. Rush were Prog Rock, they were just harder edged than most.
Even worse some people who weren't even 10 when Rush released A Farewell To Kings are lecturing us on what "certain people in the 70s were calling Prog and what they were calling Heavy Rock". How does that work?
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when did Rush ever create a branch or prog...and define it...and inspired clones who are pillars of that sub-genre or even make do what took ELP years to attempt. To fuse classical and rock music on a grand (album length) scale. it isn't rewriting history... it is being smart enough to see it for what it is... and not be confused by popular labels and what OTHERS see a band as. Genesis prog? is that rewriting history... hah.
Edited by micky - March 19 2010 at 19:44
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jammun
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 00:46 |
Can someone give a definitive response: does Geddy Lee sh*t in the woods?
(cymbal shot, audience cringes...)
But really, I was listening to some Rush the other night. I've had my doubts. But in my mind I've absolved them of all their sins. They are as proggy as anyone.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:02 |
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peart_lee_lifeson
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:11 |
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I can't believe this question is even being asked. Just go and listen to 2112, or Hemispheres, or A Farewell To Kings, or etc... If Rush is not a Prog band, then what is a prog band. Come on, seriously. But, I suppose it's understandable if you aren't that familiar with Rush.
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The Wrinkler
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 01:27 |
A Person wrote:
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that was an epic answer
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darkshade
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 03:27 |
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Are any prog bands really prog?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 06:23 |
darkshade wrote:
Are any prog bands really prog?
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Strange but true, believe it or not.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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