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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 16:24
The Yes Album. Full of great tunes. Relayer is patchy. Has great moments and filler moments
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 17:52
Yes. Relayer is their masterpiece. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 17:52
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

... "The Gates of Delirium" is, in my opinion, Yes's greatest song and an example of the perfect epic.


This is true for me as well - few other epics keep me as interested throughout...it's one of few epics that dares to "go somewhere", and not simply repeat the theme from the beginning...In fact, it develops that way throughout, each part seems to take it to another place, never needing to revisit anything before it...If a newer prog band did something like this now, I'm sure many would consider it "new and fresh"!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 18:41
This is the first Yes album I ever bought. Got it in mint shape from a guy at school in '76 or so. Best 3 bucks I ever spent. Right from the start I kew I was in for something. It's still pretty much my favourite. I tend to regard this album and CTTE together. Both are very differant in their approach but still have a certain affinity towards eachother. Rather like two sides of the same coin. O.K. that's subjective on my part but regardless Relayer is a masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 18:45
Yes, Relayer is one of the three major masterpieces consecutively released by YES.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 21:49
Oh, I do like a bit better the Sound Chaser version released on "The Word is Live", with vocals and some really beautiful moments that are not included on the original instrumental version. Alas, it's still got the Cha Cha Cha's (or as many Cha's as it's actually got).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 22:28
I like CTTE, Relayer and Drama best.  Each captures a distinct sound, each was well produced and each one has that overall tone (like King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King) that transports me into another world like a great prog album should. 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2010 at 22:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 01:58
It's interesting, because outside of this website, I always hear that The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge is their best era. The consensus seems to be that they lost their way with Tales.. and Relayer. The opposite seems to be the case here. You guys on this forum love those albums! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:21
Relayer is a great, graet Yes moment, but not THE ultimate, to me.

I would say that CTTE, Tales and The Ladder long tracks are more 'Yes-as-usual'...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:26
The goosebumps still kick in with me when Howe commences his incredible solo at the outset of the Soon sequence following all of that glorious chaos preceding it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:33
..."Relayer" is my favourite, too.  Although, it took me a while to get used to the "Cha Cha" - section. Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 15:55
I like Relayer a lot. It has a sort of Mahavishnu twist to it. I could do without Cha Cha Cha though.

Drama remains my fave though. I thought it was the end until I went into seclusion and listened to it very nervously for the first time. Then I listened to it abou 4 more times in a row in disbelief Cool ! It's certainly one of the better covers Dean did for the band too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 16:09
1) Close To the Edge
2) The Yes Album
3) Fragile
4) Going For The One

Those are my all time favorite Yes albums. Yessongs would be in my top three too, but it is a live album without unissued songs on it so I guess it doesn´t count, right? I like everything Yes did, including Relayer and Tales From Topographic Oceans, but they are not as good as those in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 16:40
My 5 are:
 
1)The yes album-full of quality tunes
2)Fragile-similar to Yes album
3)Close to the edge-mainly strong melody with the occasional filler moment
4)Tales of topographic oceans-long album. Lots of good moments. The songs are like musical prayers/rituals
5)Tormato-mainly cool tunes, maybe a bit too much high pitch synth
 
6)Drama-fairly good although a bit on the pop side
7)Relayer-love the fusion bits and To be over, but Gates is mainly filler after the first 5 minutes and Soundchaser just becomes annoying after the first 3 minutes. This album tells me the band could only think of 15-20 minutes of strong melody and the rest of the album was either experimental noises or repetition. Not much of a fan of Soon. Belongs on Going for the one with it's yucly eerie echo recording Wink
8)Going for the one-several good songs but i hate the cold, dull, eerie, echo of the recording. The vocals are screechy, the keys are high pitched. Sounds like it was recorded in a church


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 17:21

I think that Yes reached their collective creative peak all the way from Fragile through Relayer. It also seems like their intensity grew through that same period culminating in Relayer which, for my tastes, reached the point of being rather frantic to a point where I no longer enjoyed listening to it. Going for the One has some great moments but generally seems much more mellow than their previous albums.  After that point they feel much less like a a cohesive unit and much more like an experiment. CTTE would be my first pick followed by Fragile and TFTO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 17:26
Originally posted by Howard hughes Howard hughes wrote:

I think that Yes reached their collective creative peak all the way from Fragile through Relayer. It also seems like their intensity grew through that same period culminating in Relayer which, for my tastes, reached the point of being rather frantic to a point where I no longer enjoyed listening to it. Going for the One has some great moments but generally seems much more mellow than their previous albums.  After that point they feel much less like a a cohesive unit and much more like an experiment. CTTE would be my first pick followed by Fragile and TFTO.

 
Agree. By Relayer they lost had their composition qualities. But they did play cool fusion moments
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 19:47
For me...
1. Close to the Edge
2. Yes Album
3. Relayer
4. Drama
5. Fragile
6. Ladder
and then the rest.

When you say "The Yes Masterpiece"... to me the first 3 are all masterpieces of prog and all among the best of the genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2010 at 20:17
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans album cover
Not only the greatest of Yes's masterpieces, but the greatest album in all music.


 
Thanks Ep ... indeed one of rock music's greatest albums ever ... this is a symphony for the ages by people of our day and age ... too bad that some folks don't enjoy "music" ... unless it has "Hit" written all over it, and folks like Rick Wakeman are not big enough to accept that they composed something original ... but he still thinks that Grieg ... or whoever he wants to cop on his keyboard ... are better ...
 
Without a doubt one of the top ten ... totally original ... and beginning to the end, non stop and non compromising ... and there you have it ... a beautiful work ...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2010 at 01:09
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:



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YESSSSS.

I can now understand when others say they don't 'get' Relayer... until recently I couldn't feel it at all. I advise listening to Gates periodically, especially the change into the 'battle' section, around 8 minutes - best part of the whole album.
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