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There were so many cool bands out there and  Floyd was one of them. Classic Rock Radio and all these dumb music mags  has killed their mystique. Back in the seventies we didn't even know what they really looked like. 

For the most part I avoid these mediums so I still enjoy throwing albums like Pompeii, Meddle or Atom Heart Mother on the turntable and Animals remains a favourite.  

I think The wall was the death knell of the cool obscure aura Floyd had built up. That's my theory and it is mine. Ahem.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Are Pink Floyd overrated?
Almost certainly YES if you are defining them as a symphonic prog band. But not if you are defining them as a pop band.....................Cool
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What record is broken and who broke it ? I reckon that snidey paranoid Waters is to blame !!!!
Anyway, my biggest gripe with Floyd is their reinforcement of the dogma that Education is the root of all evil, when in fact pig-ignorance and the avoidance of enlightenment through education is what will eventually be the downfall of the human-race !!!!
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Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:


Oh, how pathetic. "He likes something I don't like, so he's a troll"  Apparently I'm not the only one who's not an adult.
The point is not what you like, but how your tone and statements contradict previous statements. It's pretty clear to me that, on some level, you're trying to lead us on, but that doesn't really matter if people are willing to be led on, so I'll let you be.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TODDLER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2010 at 11:28
Originally posted by classicprogsovereign classicprogsovereign wrote:

There is one thing I want to say; there's a difference between recognition and popularity. Well, there's a difference between POSITIVE recognition and popularity; I don't see the Velvet Underground selling thousands of records a day. Influence and recognition go hand-in-hand, but recognition and popularity do not, if that makes any sense.
I understand totally where you are going with this. It's very difficult to not offend a Pink Floyd fan when making an observation that may be factual based. You end up crossing that barrier in which many defend personal preference as opposed to feeling open and discussing facts. The truth is that the Floyd sold out just like anybody else from their genre. But this happened long ago and the bulk of society does not seem to give the reality much weight. My point is plain and simple minded like meLOL You most likely will not find many to agree with you based simply on the odds. I personally was turned off by Floyd because the radio was cramming it down my throat. There are about 3 generations of people who grew up on the Pink Floyd light shows with flying pigs or if not that, fathers that played the music of specifically later Floyd material for their kids who are now into their 30's and 40's. It's quite a population of people. To make an honest statement about the band's popularity and how certain things seem unjust to the world of prog regarding that popularity, is not only a tough call to make but daring in nature. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blacksword Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2010 at 07:11
I guess it's been pointed out already, but Floyds music is simple, and easy for non proggers to digest. It washes over you, like the sea, unlike Gentle Giant, Crimson or VDGG, where you need to understand the psychology of the band and what their trying to do, before you can appreciate their music. Perhaps..

Lets look at the bands componant parts:

Lead guitar: Melodic. You can almost remember note for note solo's from songs like Comfortably numb' and Another brick..partII' as if they were lyrics. People are suckers for melody over heroics any day of the week.

Bass: Nothing of note, just solid bass lines providing the back bone to the melodic guitar work and lyrical concepts.

Drums: Pretty simple really. Not much in the way of intricate beats or odd time signatures to confuse people.

Vocals: A good combination of clearly sung lyrics about 'real human' issues, put across with the right balance of sensitivity and 'look at my tortured soul'. Always a winning combination.

I'm not putting Floyd down. Indeed, they're one of my favorite bands, but it's obvious why they have such a big non prog following. They're formula is pure gold. They knew what they were doing every step of the way. They are brilliant business men.

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I haven't read most of the posts here but I'll give my opinion anyway.
 
PF was the first prog band I heard  (DSOTM when I was very young) and one of the first bands I listened to when I became "serious" about music in my early teens (roughly 1980-81).
 
Then I didn't listen to them for years because I'd overdone it.
 
Then I started listening to them again and realised how much I enjoyed them.
 
Then I overdid it again.
 
Then I gradually came round to liking them again.
 
And I realised, I like them when I want to listen to them.
 
And I don't enjoy them as much when I don't want to listen to them.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2010 at 04:46
A couple of posts have been hidden here. Please keep it civil and friendly guys, and avoid the gratuitous use of profanities.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:


"Not Now John" was written entirely by Waters, and sung by Waters and Gilmour. Not that it matters in any way, since some people here seem to be unable to distinguish between using the occasional expletive in a song and writing a post of few lines where every other word seems to be the 'f-word'.
Be fair now, there was only one f**k in the whole thing! There's no seems to be about it! :P And I'm pretty sure Anthony is trolling us because he just wrote a 4 star review of A Momentary Lapse of Reason a few months ago, and that's not even a good Pink Floyd album because it doesn't have much of Rick Wright. ;-)
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Oh, how pathetic. "He likes something I don't like, so he's a troll"  Apparently I'm not the only one who's not an adult.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by floydispink floydispink wrote:

I have to agree with you on that, though Animals also features some brilliant playing from Gilmour. 
DSOTM and WYWH obviously didn't feature Roger's lead there, and they were much more of a group effort.
Still, all tracks on DSOTM are written or co-written by Waters, except Great Gig and Any Colour (I won't mention Speak To Me, as that's just a gimmick, isn't it?Wink).
Also, because those albums make the most use of Gilmour's talent, that doesn't change Nick's drumming, doesn't it?
Anyway, I'm going to stop here...


As far as I remember, Time and Us & Them are co-credited to Waters only because he wrote the lyrics (for, he wrote the lyrics to all the album), but had just about nothing to do with the music of those songs. So, indeed, it's much of a group effort.

According to the booklet, Money, Brain Damage and Eclipse are creditted to Waters only. In the other songs (with the exception of the ones listed in my earlier post) Waters is listed with some of the other members, I don't know if the order of names does matter here, but Waters' name is often first. But sure, Dark Side and WYWH were much more group efforts, which is also why David wanted to kind of "relive" the mood of WYWH on the Division Bell.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by floydispink floydispink wrote:

 You know that Not Now John was written by Gilmour, right?
Umm... what? Geek


"Not Now John" was written entirely by Waters, and sung by Waters and Gilmour. Not that it matters in any way, since some people here seem to be unable to distinguish between using the occasional expletive in a song and writing a post of few lines where every other word seems to be the 'f-word'.
Be fair now, there was only one f**k in the whole thing! There's no seems to be about it! :P And I'm pretty sure Anthony is trolling us because he just wrote a 4 star review of A Momentary Lapse of Reason a few months ago, and that's not even a good Pink Floyd album because it doesn't have much of Rick Wright. ;-)
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Are Pink Floyd overrated?
Almost certainly YES if you are defining them as a symphonic prog band. But not if you are defining them as a pop band.....................Cool
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A+ for effort, Dean.
 
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Edited by Henry Plainview - January 04 2010 at 13:38
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Originally posted by floydispink floydispink wrote:

I have to agree with you on that, though Animals also features some brilliant playing from Gilmour. 
DSOTM and WYWH obviously didn't feature Roger's lead there, and they were much more of a group effort.
Still, all tracks on DSOTM are written or co-written by Waters, except Great Gig and Any Colour (I won't mention Speak To Me, as that's just a gimmick, isn't it?Wink).
Also, because those albums make the most use of Gilmour's talent, that doesn't change Nick's drumming, doesn't it?
Anyway, I'm going to stop here...


As far as I remember, Time and Us & Them are co-credited to Waters only because he wrote the lyrics (for, he wrote the lyrics to all the album), but had just about nothing to do with the music of those songs. So, indeed, it's much of a group effort.
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I have spent some time during the holidays with PA forums. The difference between PF and everybody else is that I have seen more than 25 posts in one afternoon (here is late afternoon). Only the post about Vangelis has similar dimensions. I'll quit here, but PF are still the top for me. I started looiking to progressive music after listening to Pink Floyd and ELP about 40 yrs ago. That's where I'm from. If you don't like them, or don't like them anymore, it's not a problem. I don't like Genesis. 

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OK OK, I thought I actually liked Pink Floyd but now I am totally convinced I was deluded and am quite certain I don't like them at all.
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Edited by Slartibartfast - January 03 2010 at 12:34
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Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Only David Gilmour has any talent

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

I also said I liked Gilmour, and those two albums make the most use of his talents.

That didn't really come across to me I must say, given the overall tone of your post I thought you just admitted that Gilmour is the only member of Floyd who wasn't completely bad.

OK, apparently I should have left out the word 'any'.
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And about face is not the best solo album of a PF member. It's more pop than Radio Kaos.
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I have to agree with you on that, though Animals also features some brilliant playing from Gilmour. 
DSOTM and WYWH obviously didn't feature Roger's lead there, and they were much more of a group effort.
Still, all tracks on DSOTM are written or co-written by Waters, except Great Gig and Any Colour (I won't mention Speak To Me, as that's just a gimmick, isn't it?Wink).
Also, because those albums make the most use of Gilmour's talent, that doesn't change Nick's drumming, doesn't it?

Anyway, I'm going to stop here...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pekka Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2010 at 12:24
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

Only David Gilmour has any talent

Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

I also said I liked Gilmour, and those two albums make the most use of his talents.

That didn't really come across to me I must say, given the overall tone of your post I thought you just admitted that Gilmour is the only member of Floyd who wasn't completely bad.


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I also said I liked Gilmour, and those two albums make the most use of his talents.
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Ok guys, Anthony doesn't like Waters. I admit that the "paranoid" period of Waters is what I like less in their history, but saying that they are overrated as group is really excessive. I think Atom and More are underrated, instead. Is there anybody else that you think is overrated in the PA top 100?
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^ But also on Dark Side and WYWH Mason's boring drumming is present, stupid gimmicks can be heard and Roger's crappy songwriting is there as welll, or not?
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