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Epignosis wrote: I love how you argue your politics Brian. By that logic, we should take away computers from civilians because two of them could steal people's identity.

There wasn't an argument in that.  I actually think folks should be able to have firearms for self defense.  I just don't happen to believe that that was what the second amendment was about.  But if you give people the unfettered rights to guns, there are consequences.  Hell, even fettered rights to guns are no guarantee.  You have to be better armed and better at shooting than those who coming after you...

Let's take Bonnie and Clyde as a case in point, they outgunned the police had fast cars, but ultimately they were gunned down severely.  Live by the sword, die by the sword eh?

Sure when these psychos go on a shooting spree, maybe if there had been good people armed they could have taken them out.  I find it more likely that it would just lead to more opportunities for mayhem.


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 06 2009 at 14:06

There is talk that at the Ft. Hood shootings that some of the victims may have been the result of friendly fire.  i.e. too many people with guns just started shooting and whoever got shot got shot.  Keep in mind this is just rumor, not anything confirmed.

Epignosis wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Epignosis wrote: I love how you argue your politics Brian.By that logic, we should take away computers from civilians because two of them could steal people's identity. There wasn't an argument in that.  I actually think folks should be able to have firearms for self defense.  I just don't happen to believe that that was what the second amendment was about.  But if you give people the unfettered rights to guns, there are consequences.  Hell, even fettered rights to guns are no guarantee.  You have to be better armed and better at shooting than those who coming after you... I agree with that.  I honestly think teachers and professors should be trained and armed (in some manner- not necessarily guns, maybe Tasers)...I wonder how far the VA Tech guy would have gotten if every professor in the school had the means and training to stop him.

as a long-time educator, I'm just picturing most of the teachers I've worked with over the years packing heat, it's just too damn funny.

Epignosis wrote: Easy Money wrote: Epignosis wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: Epignosis wrote: I love how you argue your politics Brian.By that logic, we should take away computers from civilians because two of them could steal people's identity. There wasn't an argument in that.  I actually think folks should be able to have firearms for self defense.  I just don't happen to believe that that was what the second amendment was about.  But if you give people the unfettered rights to guns, there are consequences.  Hell, even fettered rights to guns are no guarantee.  You have to be better armed and better at shooting than those who coming after you... I agree with that.  I honestly think teachers and professors should be trained and armed (in some manner- not necessarily guns, maybe Tasers)...I wonder how far the VA Tech guy would have gotten if every professor in the school had the means and training to stop him. as a long-time educator, I'm just picturing most of the teachers I've worked with over the years packing heat, it's just too damn funny. Now that you mention it...

Not that I support suicide in any way, but if things are so bad that you feel you need to go out in a blaze of glory by taking a whole bunch of people with you, than it is damn sure a better thing that you just turn the gun on yourself. 

It is sad that their are so many shootings. I don't think that the guns are the problem, as they say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. I know that they wouldn't be able to kill as many people without a gun, but if they are that determined I don't think it would make much difference. Besides, even if they only kill one person besides themselves it is still two people too many.

rushfan4 wrote: Not that I support suicide in any way, but if things are so bad that you feel you need to go out in a blaze of glory by taking a whole bunch of people with you, than it is damn sure a better thing that you just turn the gun on yourself.

I think that if things are so bad that you have to say good-bye to it all how about turning the gun on yourself, see how you like it, and then try to start taking people with you. 

Edited by Vibrationbaby - November 07 2009 at 10:49

I know guns are more dangerous, I'm just saying the problem is inherent to mankind. As far as I can tell there will always be killings, which is horrible no matter how many people are killed.

Vibrationbaby wrote: The world would be a better place without people. Then there wouldn' be guns, polution or Céline Dion. Then the world would rejeuvenate itself and there would be  paradise.

Where would Michael Buble fall into all of this? Can we have a world without Michael Buble? Please.

The DC sniper is going to be put to death. Yay God. He exitinquished all his courses of action.  He`s gone. Apparently he got a  judge with brains in his head. We sure as hell don`t have them here in Canada.  We should bring back the death penalty but our legal system is full of a bunch of liberal bleeding heart pussies.