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Dean
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 14:13 |
Congratulations to Jensen
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: October 19 2009 at 16:54 |
Storming drive from Jenson yesterday, and those passing moves were some of the best this year. The amazing thing is that since Turkey in June the Brawn hasnt been the car to have, with Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and even Force India(!!!) at some point having the best cars out there, so top job from Button.
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JJLehto
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 17:14 |
To be fair, (or an ass) Button and Brawn did run up a huge lead while many of the teams were down....
Not even Button himself could erode that big a lead But really. Congrats again! Besides, his lead may have crumbled over time, but NO ONE could put a consistent run together. What a crazy year. |
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The T
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 22:37 |
The shawshank redemption. I've seen it a few times before and everytime it keeps getting better. It has everything a movie should have and has one of the most feel-good endings of a time. 10/10
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JJLehto
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Posted: October 24 2009 at 02:14 |
^ Well as unrelated as it is I must agree, Shawshank Redemption is amazing, possibly my favorite movie.
Soooo how are you Brits feeling now? 2 British champs in a row. And I thought the days of the empire were long gone One last time, congrats to Jensen. At least he can enjoy it...because the teams are probably already long involved on working for 2010! |
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: October 31 2009 at 18:00 |
I just watched the last half of the NASCAR truck race at Talledega. Scary stuff !! Very exiting and top racing. But still very scary. I was waiting for The Big One and it arrived after some hairy pack racing. 8 cars into the wall and a big mess. Nobody was hurt, thankfully. The racing has to be seen to be believed. Big packs of 40 cars in a big pack, 3-4 wide and inches away from each other. It is edge of the seat stuff. That was true racing. |
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mystic fred
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 03:29 |
the Empire of talent is still strong
Looking forward to todays's race at Abu Dhabi which should not be written off as a practice run - there are still points to be earned and a race to run, Hamilton is well up for a win achieving Poll in the qualifiers, though the last race is last ditch for many drivers, the spectators can all be guaranteed a splendid race!
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 03:46 |
I hope the Abu Dhabi track collapses because it sums up everything wrong with todays F1
(Nobody should get hurt, though)
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 08:43 |
What do you think is wrong with F1, Luca ?
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 12:51 |
Exotic races in countries where nobody gives a damn about racing
Excessive gigantism
Showing off of richness
Lack of challenging corners
Big paved run off areas
Flatness
Predictability
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 15:38 |
F1 is well over the top and I can agree with your criticism of it. F1 is more about storylines outside the racetrack than motorracing. Most of the races puts me to sleep, to be honest. I am watching real motorracing now. The NASCAR race from Talledega. It is red flagged at the moment due to a big accident. Being turned over in 300 km/h is perhaps not a healthy thing. But the driver walked away from the crash. Good fun, this race. Edit: Make that two big crashes in five laps. Mark Martin's world was also turned upside down in over 300 km/h. Well, it is bound to happen when you turn loose 30 mad racers for two laps and they all want to win. Madness is the right word. Edited by toroddfuglesteg - November 01 2009 at 15:55 |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 22:10 |
Personally I like the new Abu Dhabi track...at least the complex it's built in. The track is a bit flat for my tastes, but I like the new exiting tunnel. At least it won't be hosting the finale again next year.
All in all, an excellent year in F1 I thought. While not the nail biters they've had over the past two years, the Brawn blowout was certainly as shocking as either of the results from recent years (although admittedly this lessened over the course of the year). I fear though I will lose track of all the changes that will happen over the off season...new teams, new rules, new tracks, new drivers, drivers with different teams...ahh well. Can't wait for 2010! (Fingers crossed Canadia makes it back on the schedule)
As for NASCAR...I think i will change my format for watching 'Dega races...watch the opening 20 laps and the final 40-50 laps and skip the in between bits. I agree fully with Jr....its not bump drafting in the corners thats the problem, its blocking. Sure, bump drafting in the corners will sometimes lead to a wreck, but anything can really. Doubt NASCAR can get away with a no blocking rule either....Hopefully NASCAR will learn and the racing will get to large packs for 80-90% of the race again instead of what happned today (sans the last 20 laps or so).
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 02:16 |
Was not a fan of the Abu Dhabi track...
It was just...weird. Can't explain, but when I was watching it I felt, weird. No excitement or emotion. Will agree with Luca that it also seemed extremely over the top and exotic. Edited by JJLehto - November 03 2009 at 02:17 |
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sleeper
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 07:34 |
Abu Dhabi is like every other Tilkedrome; its big, expensive, ostentatious and completely devoid of soul.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 13:11 |
Glad I'm not the only one that felt that way. It's so true, that track really did have no soul in it. I'm mixed on Tilke I personally am a fan of some of his tracks, (Im thinking Malaysia, China and Turkey) but others are just terrible. Especially alot of his revamps of old tracks... Edited by JJLehto - November 03 2009 at 13:13 |
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 01:39 |
It seems like Toyota is heading out of F1. I never understood why they were in F1 in the first place. A lot of money for nothing. Their hiring of the wrong Schumacher (Ralf) for a fortune was not inspired. Their sacking of Gascoyne because he wanted to go motorracing and win F1 championships was very stupid. Why were they in F1 ? |
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sleeper
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Posted: November 04 2009 at 07:09 |
Bad news for F1 all round this week with Bridgestone announcing that 2010 will be their last year and now Toyota pulling out immediately. Still, at least it means Sauber will be on the grid next year.
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Luca Pacchiarini
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 04:52 |
look at this car someone painted for me for the sim GT Legends: http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=23533&page=1
spot the prog reference :D
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 06:51 |
Mercedes-Benz bought Brawn earlier today and have made it their factory team. Mr. Brawn will control around 20 % of the company though and remain it's brain. The new team will probably have a German line up next year with Rosberg and Heidfeld. Jenson Button will very probably drive at McLaren together with Lewis Hamilton. That driver line up will be a kind of a Champions of the Champions where the 2008 and the 2009 champ fights it out. That is going to be something ! .......Although I am off to a bookie to put my money on Hamilton. The odds are probably even on that one. I did not see this coming. What's next up ? |
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Luca Pacchiarini
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2009 Location: home Status: Offline Points: 530 |
Posted: November 18 2009 at 11:01 |
I just made a Youtube video...
A video containing many photos of vintage racing.... to capture the real, old spirit of motorsport, sadly lost in todays F1.
Credits goes to the original photo authors and to everyone who shares the passion for racing. BTW the soundtrack is welll.... PROG! Edited by Luca Pacchiarini - November 18 2009 at 11:01 |
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