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Poll Question: Wich one do you prefer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 02:32
Stairway to Heaven. As Logan says, "Child in Time" is probably derived from "Bombay Calling".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 04:34
I find that Child in Time has so much more energy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 04:44
Stairway to Heaven is between 200 and 300 in my top 1000 songs of all time. Child in Time is in my top 100.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 07:39
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I much prefer the track "Bombay Calling" that inspired "Child in Time" by It's a Beautiful Day (and Beautiful Days' was an adaptation of the be-bop jazzer Vince Wallace's "Bombay Calling":  Great riff.
 
As stated a number of times in PA: which was in turn  lifted from J.S.Bach and stated so in the line notes for a remastered issue of IABD album.
 
Johann Sebastian was targeted by a number of prog and heavy rock musicians at the end of the 60's and early 70's and indeed Wendy Carlos did a whole synth album Switched On Bach and later the complete Brandenburg Concertos.  BBC 2 did a complete programme on why Bach's music appealed so much - particularly the Brandenburgs  - in the early 70's .


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 08:51
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I much prefer the track "Bombay Calling" that inspired "Child in Time" by It's a Beautiful Day (and Beautiful Days' was an adaptation of the be-bop jazzer Vince Wallace's "Bombay Calling":  Great riff.
 
As stated a number of times in PA: which was in turn  lifted from J.S.Bach and stated so in the line notes for a remastered issue of IABD album.
 
Johann Sebastian was targeted by a number of prog and heavy rock musicians at the end of the 60's and early 70's and indeed Wendy Carlos did a whole synth album Switched On Bach and later the complete Brandenburg Concertos.  BBC 2 did a complete programme on why Bach's music appealed so much - particularly the Brandenburgs  - in the early 70's .


Thats pretty interesting, didnīt knew that, or that child in time is inspired by another band either.

I donīt know Bachs original theme, but i think Deep Purple made the best out of it  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:22
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Aaah, BS !! Also a classic, isnīt it ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:35
I don't know.
 
Both tracks are so overplayed that's i can remember note for note in my mind.
 
Instead i vote for July Morning 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:39
No vote, just a post Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 09:59
Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I much prefer the track "Bombay Calling" that inspired "Child in Time" by It's a Beautiful Day (and Beautiful Days' was an adaptation of the be-bop jazzer Vince Wallace's "Bombay Calling":  Great riff.
 
As stated a number of times in PA: which was in turn  lifted from J.S.Bach and stated so in the line notes for a remastered issue of IABD album.
 
Johann Sebastian was targeted by a number of prog and heavy rock musicians at the end of the 60's and early 70's and indeed Wendy Carlos did a whole synth album Switched On Bach and later the complete Brandenburg Concertos.  BBC 2 did a complete programme on why Bach's music appealed so much - particularly the Brandenburgs  - in the early 70's .


Thats pretty interesting, didnīt knew that, or that child in time is inspired by another band either.

I donīt know Bachs original theme, but i think Deep Purple made the best out of it  Wink


I did notice a Bach-like influence to it, but then that's not uncommon.  That is interesting, thanks Dick.  I used to have that Switched on Bach album (given to me by someone when I was five -- my father would not have approved), and as a kid, the Brandenburg Concertos was a particular favourite of mine (think I was attracted to the cover art on my parents' album initially).  Been too many years since I listened to Brandenbug.... I've been moving back more to "academic" music  (stopped listening to much of the music at one time because it made me too emotional). Do you know which particular Bach piece it was lifted from?  Perhaps it should have been named something like "Variations on Bach's....).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:14
child in time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:15
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

[QUOTE=Mind_Drive] [QUOTE=Dick Heath][QUOTE=Logan]Do you know which particular Bach piece it was lifted from?  Perhaps it should have been named something like "Variations on Bach's....).
 
Forgive me, if I misread your question, but this is what Leonard Bernstein once called the 'transmoogrification' of the complete Brandeburg Concertos:
Switched on Brandenburgs
 
e.g. available approximately close to what JSB intended on the likes of
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:40
If "Bombay Calling" was lifted from Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, I was wondering which particular concerto, and which movement (assuming there is one in particular) it was based on (since I don't have the music available at home, I'd like to search youtube for it).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:52
I don't listen to either : Mainly cos of overplay so its a draw no vote
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 17:11

went Child in Time to make it a tie


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 19:00
For what it's worth (given the origin of Child In Time), the opening riff of Stairway is virtually a direct lift of the melody of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album. 
 
Oughtta make a new poll:  Bombay Calling vs. Taurus LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 03:48
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

For what it's worth (given the origin of Child In Time), the opening riff of Stairway is virtually a direct lift of the melody of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album. 
 
Oughtta make a new poll:  Bombay Calling vs. Taurus LOL


Unhappy that kinda destroys my view of the world, that 2 of the songs wich i thought of were one of the most impressive in my life are actually inspired by other bands -.-^^
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 04:08
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

If "Bombay Calling" was lifted from Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, I was wondering which particular concerto, and which movement (assuming there is one in particular) it was based on (since I don't have the music available at home, I'd like to search youtube for it).
 
For clarity. I didn't say Bombay Calling/Child In Time were borrowed from Bach's Brandenburgs - rather these tunes' main themes come from a Bach piece. Brandenburgs came into the discussion because of the interest some prog and other musicians had in them end of 60's/beginning 70's, e.g. Keith Emerson & Nice, WendyCarlos, so reflecting a broader interest in Bach - BTW add to the list Dave Stewart and Egg. Slightly divergent Modern Jazz Quartet did a whole album of Bach interpretations around this time.
 
In part the Brit prog interest perhaps stems from the relationship of church organ music and some of the teaching prog keyboardist got or environments they may have practiced - as proposed by Ed Macan in his thesis/book RockingThe Classics.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 04:11
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

I don't listen to either : Mainly cos of overplay so its a draw no vote
 
In truth that's my feeling too - I glad to find others get burn out from overplay. Add the original versions of  Darkside and Sgt Pepper to my "had enough of" list., although I do get fresh pleasure from Easy Stars All Stars interpretations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 08:00
both great songs, they just don't write 'em like that anymore Ermm
 
 
do they?  Confused
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 08:18
I voted Child in Time because:

a. It's got a Hammond organ (hurrah!) and

b. It hasn't been quite so played to death.

There are other tracks by both bands I listen to far more though and these two definitely suffer from over-exposure.
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