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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 17:49
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:


Originally posted by MaxerJ MaxerJ wrote:

^ That is one great thing about them - they pretty much defined the sound of progressive metal... twice!Once with Images and Words, then again with SFAM. Both of those are completely different sounds, and influenced thousands of clones.And i pretty much love every DT album. I got into them with Systematic, and i still love the awesome chunky riffs in Dark Eternal and Constant Motion. But I wasn't too happy with Black Clouds.. especially since i paid $300 for it! It just wasn't the fufilling meal every other album had been...
ShockedThat's insane!! I would never buy anything over $60 with very few exceptions, and even if there are exceptions they can't beat the $100 at all! $300 is a ticket to any Prog show, or even less, if I'm not mistaken.... and well, $300 in my place is like buying 12 (average price) albums!


In Australian Dollars, thats about 16 albums


$300 for a fairly common album?Confused Bummer.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:01
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:


Originally posted by MaxerJ MaxerJ wrote:

^ That is one great thing about them - they pretty much defined the sound of progressive metal... twice!Once with Images and Words, then again with SFAM. Both of those are completely different sounds, and influenced thousands of clones.And i pretty much love every DT album. I got into them with Systematic, and i still love the awesome chunky riffs in Dark Eternal and Constant Motion. But I wasn't too happy with Black Clouds.. especially since i paid $300 for it! It just wasn't the fufilling meal every other album had been...
ShockedThat's insane!! I would never buy anything over $60 with very few exceptions, and even if there are exceptions they can't beat the $100 at all! $300 is a ticket to any Prog show, or even less, if I'm not mistaken.... and well, $300 in my place is like buying 12 (average price) albums!


In Australian Dollars, thats about 16 albums
$300 for a fairly common album?Confused Bummer.


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^ Well, my friend and i split the special edition, thinking the album would change our lives with it's awesomeness... it was actually $150 each, but i gave the money to the shop, so for effect i like to refer to it as 'the album I paid $300 for'




I've still never heard a store charging anything >100 for a special edition CD release in Australia though...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:29
^me neither, here in Argentina. Heck, not sure how much I saw Black Clouds special edition here in a popular music store, though I'm sure it wasn't even close to even $200(pesos)

Though, I have seen some $100 albums which were imported things like Tangerine Dream, 80's Tull, and others..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:30
I think that that was how much DT was selling it for on their website.  It came with a whole bunch of bells and whistles if I am not mistaken.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:31
Ah, same...

There's a store in my state which sells Japanese mini LP's of old Yes albums for 80 USD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:34
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Ah, same...

There's a store in my state which sells Japanese mini LP's of old Yes albums for 80 USD.


As far as I'm concerned I've never seen those famed Japanese mini-LP's physically yet.... though I know they're expensive as hell....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:36
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I believe this here maybe.  http://www.dreamtheater.net/disco_dreamtheater.php?s=black_clouds_silver_linings_boxset


Ahhhh......so that's it!

Now I see, I thought it was just the 3 CD edition...

I find the price pretty reasonable now, though I still stand that I would *almost* never buy something like that.(possible exceptions would be, I dunno, something like that by Pink Floyd, Yes, Deep Purple or the like)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:39
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:


Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I believe this here maybe.  http://www.dreamtheater.net/disco_dreamtheater.php?s=black_clouds_silver_linings_boxset
Ahhhh......so that's it!Now I see, I thought it was just the 3 CD edition...I find the price pretty reasonable now, though I still stand that I would *almost* never buy something like that.(possible exceptions would be, I dunno, something like that by Pink Floyd, Yes, Deep Purple or the like)


So did I - I had no idea there was that one...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2009 at 18:41
Mind you, that I would never buy such a special edition for a album that I haven't heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2009 at 04:03
^ My friend (who idol worships them) pretty much conned me into it... it really was only $150 for each of us... and it would have been very fulfilling had the album been fantastic.

Oh well, it'll probably be worth a pretty penny one day...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2009 at 06:57
I'm just getting ready to set off to London to see Dream Theater and Opeth!!

Just thought I'd share that with you...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2009 at 08:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2009 at 19:24
^^ Cheers Jeff. Had a really good night. All four bands were great. Opeth were superb and Dream Theater absolutely rocked..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2009 at 21:24
^^ All four bands? What were the other two?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2009 at 06:08
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

^^ All four bands? What were the other two?


Unexpect and Big Elf. Unexpect were kind of prog death metal, with some folky leanings courtesy of a violinist. Quite a starnge mix of styles. Their sound wasn't too good, so it was hard to pick out some of the musics complexities, but they were 'interesting' shall we say. Big Elf (think I've heard of them)had a hard rock and slight blues element, with plenty of hammond and some mellotron. They sounded very good.

Did Dweezil Zappa guest on the US leg of this tour??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2009 at 08:04
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

^^ All four bands? What were the other two?


Unexpect and Big Elf. Unexpect were kind of prog death metal, with some folky leanings courtesy of a violinist. Quite a starnge mix of styles. Their sound wasn't too good, so it was hard to pick out some of the musics complexities, but they were 'interesting' shall we say. Big Elf (think I've heard of them)had a hard rock and slight blues element, with plenty of hammond and some mellotron. They sounded very good.

Did Dweezil Zappa guest on the US leg of this tour??


I couldn't make it to the concertEmbarrassed I think Dweezil was there though...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2009 at 16:52
Originally posted by MaxerJ MaxerJ wrote:

All in all, I've kinda stopped listening to them as progressive... the songs are too similar for that. Instead i think of them as the greatest metal band to walk the earth... much more fufilling.


ähem.. what? too similar? Confused

... sorry just can´t agree with that



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2009 at 17:00
I saw Dream Theater at the Manchester Apollo on Friday night - DT were amazing, especially the encore - The Count of Tuscany, excellent in the extreme.
The Opeth bit was excellent and it was amusing to see the dick heads in the mosh-pit fighting in a kind of death-metal rugby scrum - just what is that all about !!!!
Big Elf were also worth listening to - the opening band were terrible !!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2009 at 03:05
^ I was at this gig too (hi Rob!) and he is right, DT absolutely smoked - fantastic performance, wonderful sound mix too.  Easily the best I've seen from the band live.
 
Unlike Rob, I wasn't in the mosh pit LOL.
 
To hear Sacrificed Sons, a real favourite of mine, was awesome.  The new stuff rocked big time and Petrucci's work during Count Of Tuscany was sublime.  What a surprise to hear Dance Of Eternity too Tongue.  The band's tightness during this piece was simply staggering.
 
Before the gig I had never heard a note of Opeth.  I was very impressed indeed, and that's another band to go on the "to get" list.  I preferred the singing to the growling though..........
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