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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 16:41 |
rushfan4 wrote:
J-Man wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
With my fairly recent purchase of Black Clouds and Silver Linings I have been revisiting the entire Dream Theater discography. I listened to Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence last night, and it kind of surprised me how non-metal it was. They seemed to be concentrating more on making good music as a band versus the neverending solos that seem to always get criticized.
I have to admit that I was kind of disappointed with the concept behind Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. To be honest I just didn't get what the concept was other then apparently there were 2 to 6 people with various psychological problems which were either trying to be treated or caused as a result of the treatments. And then with the last song it just ended without really tieing any of the songs or story together or really having a worthwhile conclusion. What did I miss?
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Well, if it was your first listen, you probably didn't pick up all of the themes in one sitting. I thought the conclusion summed it up perfectly, though
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I listened to it a number of times when it came out, but probably haven't listened to it more than once or twice since. |
Different strokes for different folks I guess...
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Mind_Drive
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 16:53 |
DT is one of my all time favourite bands and also one of the best i think ;)
scenes is my personal favourite second is images together with awake...
the thing i appreciate the most is petruccis playing because for me he writes the most beautiful melodies (except for his shredding ofc - wich is not only a bad thing because he often uses his incredible speed to put emphasis on the dramatic feeling of some solo for example).. at this place i again have to tell you all to listen to "an evening with john petrucci and jordan rudess" if you have not done yet :D
only labire never convinced me much...
greets
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It's just a ride... <3
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progkidjoel
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:22 |
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I borrowed a copy of An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess from a friend, and let me tell you, it blew out any preconceptions I had about Petrucci and Rudess.
I often (stupidly) thought of Rudess as a juvenile and immature keyboardist, only really concerned with technicality. This showed another whole side and dimension to both of the masters, and is really worth a listen for big DT fans!
-Joel
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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:27 |
I have An Evening With as well, and it is very impressive! Dream Theater is probably my favorite band ever, so my opinion doesn't mean much, but I definitely love it!
-Jeff
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:28 |
Hm I seem to be the only DT fan not impressed with An Evening With. Perhaps it just ain't my style....?
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
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progkidjoel
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:30 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Hm I seem to be the only DT fan not impressed with An Evening With. Perhaps it just ain't my style....? |
I'm not really a DT fan, but the thing I love about it is that it doesn't seem like anything else they've ever released.
And I KNOW I'll get murdered for saying this, especially in this thread, but DT doesn't usually emotionally connect with me, but this disc did.
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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:33 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Hm I seem to be the only DT fan not impressed with An Evening With. Perhaps it just ain't my style....? |
Probably. It really isn't a masterpiece or even a true album, but it is definitely something cool to listen to. It isn't meant for the same type of enjoyment as Scenes From a Memory, etc. but more so as a jazzy album with some cool riffs and great musicians jamming. Personally, I love it, but if you're not into that type of thing, it definitely won't appeal to you.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:35 |
Well the thing is....I'm into EXACTLY that kind of thing
Just never clicked. Same thing with LTE, oddly enough! Though I love DT's instrumentals.
Queer business indeed.....
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:37 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Well the thing is....I'm into EXACTLY that kind of thing
Just never clicked. Same thing with LTE, oddly enough! Though I love DT's instrumentals.
Queer business indeed..... |
Maybe you don't like it when Petrucci and Rudess jam?  Dude, sorry I can't help you anymore  -Jeff
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:40 |
J-Man wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Well the thing is....I'm into EXACTLY that kind of thing
Just never clicked. Same thing with LTE, oddly enough! Though I love DT's instrumentals.
Queer business indeed..... |
Maybe you don't like it when Petrucci and Rudess jam? Dude, sorry I can't help you anymore
-Jeff
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That's probably it 
You know, I've never been into jamming much. I loathe Phish. Which is exactly the reason I like Dream Theater, I guess.
See? I've come full circle
(Yeah, yeah, here come all the Octavarium jokes....  )
Edited by Tarquin Underspoon - October 05 2009 at 17:41
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 17:42 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
Well the thing is....I'm into EXACTLY that kind of thing
Just never clicked. Same thing with LTE, oddly enough! Though I love DT's instrumentals.
Queer business indeed..... |
Maybe you don't like it when Petrucci and Rudess jam? Dude, sorry I can't help you anymore
-Jeff
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That's probably it 
You know, I've never been into jamming much. I loathe Phish. Which is exactly the reason I like Dream Theater, I guess.
See? I've come full circle
(Yeah, yeah, here come all the Octavarium jokes....  ) |
I was going to continue the line for you, but I figured I'd better not
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The Block
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 18:49 |
It makes you like jamming more if the people jamming are good musicians too.(I agree with J-Man)
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 21:18 |
Images and Words and Awake absolutely own. I'd give my opinion on what I think about many other DT releases, but that is not appropriate for an appreciation thread : P
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 21:52 |
progkidjoel wrote:
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I borrowed a copy of An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess from a friend, and let me tell you, it blew out any preconceptions I had about Petrucci and Rudess.
I often (stupidly) thought of Rudess as a juvenile and immature keyboardist, only really concerned with technicality. This showed another whole side and dimension to both of the masters, and is really worth a listen for big DT fans!
-Joel |
This is what boggles my mind about Rudess. When he plays piano, he's an amazingly gifted musician. When he touches a keyboard he decides to use it as a substitute for his right hand and KY Jelly.
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 21:53 |
I also have An Evening with JP & JR, and I find it a nice listening, but I never really got to love that stuff. I enjoy it more as background music. And certainly, Dream Theater fans shoul take this album with precaution, for it's got about nothing to do with Dream Theater (except for Petrucci and Rudess, ofcourse). On the other hand, I really loved the Liquid Tension Experiment albums (well, not all their songs, but the good ones are really great). I guess there's a better chance for a Dream Theater fan to like LTE than an Evening with JP & JR.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 21:55 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
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I borrowed a copy of An Evening With John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess from a friend, and let me tell you, it blew out any preconceptions I had about Petrucci and Rudess.
I often (stupidly) thought of Rudess as a juvenile and immature keyboardist, only really concerned with technicality. This showed another whole side and dimension to both of the masters, and is really worth a listen for big DT fans!
-Joel |
This is what boggles my mind about Rudess. When he plays piano, he's an amazingly gifted musician. When he touches a keyboard he decides to use it as a substitute for his right hand and KY Jelly. |
Thats exactly how I feel about it!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 22:10 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
This is what boggles my mind about Rudess. When he plays piano, he's an amazingly gifted musician. When he touches a keyboard he decides to use it as a substitute for his right hand and KY Jelly. |
This is true.
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darkshade
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Posted: October 06 2009 at 11:40 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
This is what boggles my mind about Rudess. When he plays piano, he's an amazingly gifted musician. When he touches a keyboard he decides to use it as a substitute for his right hand and KY Jelly. |
This is true.
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seconded
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 06 2009 at 18:57 |
darkshade wrote:
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
This is what boggles my mind about Rudess. When he plays piano, he's an amazingly gifted musician. When he touches a keyboard he decides to use it as a substitute for his right hand and KY Jelly. |
This is true.
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seconded
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Yeah, probably so...
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J-Man
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Posted: October 06 2009 at 18:59 |
What's all of the Rudess hating!?!?!?!
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